Are application statistics not as scary as they seem?

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    For example a medicine course at imperial may accept 1 in 8 people but that is for all aplicants including those who got shortlisted. So if youre a realistic candidate who passes all the shortlisting do you have better odds
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    (Original post by glad-he-ate-her)
    For example a medicine course at imperial may accept 1 in 8 people but that is for all aplicants including those who got shortlisted. So if youre a realistic candidate who passes all the shortlisting do you have better odds
    Application statistics can be extremely misleading. Ideally what you need to know is how many places a university has and what their general uptake of offers is. Most universities give out lots more offers than they have places because students often do not meet their offers, they pick other universities, or they drop out before attending.

    A 1/8 (13%) acceptance rate is not actually that bad. I used to work in a university where a clinical psychology course had an acceptance rate of less than 5%. When I did some informal statistics I found those invited for interview had a decent chance of being selected (28%). This is especially the case as certain applicants who meet minimum standards are automatically shortlisted for interview but may not actually be that competitive. So effectively you might just need to be better than two other applicants on the day to get an offer.

    Of course unless you work in a university and are involved in admissions you are never likely to know what percentage of the original pool of applicants were actually competitive. Ditto the other applicants on your interview day. It might be a weaker pool at the end of the application cycle; people might just had a bad day or the university was not their first choice so they did not really care; etc., etc.
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    (Original post by evantej)
    Application statistics can be extremely misleading. Ideally what you need to know is how many places a university has and what their general uptake of offers is. Most universities give out lots more offers than they have places because students often do not meet their offers, they pick other universities, or they drop out before attending.

    A 1/8 (13%) acceptance rate is not actually that bad. I used to work in a university where a clinical psychology course had an acceptance rate of less than 5%. When I did some informal statistics I found those invited for interview had a decent chance of being selected (28%). This is especially the case as certain applicants who meet minimum standards are automatically shortlisted for interview but may not actually be that competitive. So effectively you might just need to be better than two other applicants on the day to get an offer.

    Of course unless you work in a university and are involved in admissions you are never likely to know what percentage of the original pool of applicants were actually competitive. Ditto the other applicants on your interview day. It might be a weaker pool at the end of the application cycle; people might just had a bad day or the university was not their first choice so they did not really care; etc., etc.
    Thank you for your detailed reply
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    For example a medicine course at imperial may accept 1 in 8 people but that is for all aplicants including those who got shortlisted. So if youre a realistic candidate who passes all the shortlisting do you have better odds
    Correct. A more useful statistic is the Offer Rate, however Offer Rates for medicine are still fairly low...

    Check Which? University.
    http://university.which.co.uk/imperi...000-a100-38399
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    Offer rates are better, but they can still be quite scary, particularly when you've been shortlisted for an interview or something and everyone else is of a similar standard to you. It may be easy to beat the first 3 or 4 other candidates for a place, but the last one or two will be the truly competitive ones. That's where the going gets tough, and where distinguishing yourself really matters
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    Yeah they're not as scary as they seem. For example, UCL says they have 16 applicants per place for Law, which is true, but that's only because lots of people either reject their offers or don't meet the grades. They actually gave out offers to 22% of applicants last year, so 1 in 5. The offer rate is much more illuminating than the acceptance rate.
 
 
 
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