Should Tony Blair return to lead the Labour Party?

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    Tony Blair hinted in an Esquire interview that he might be open to returning to frontline politics. I think it would be possible for him to win a leadership election due to the open-primary system that would allow hundreds of thousands of moderates to vote if they were given a candidate they could get behind (maybe Dan Jarvis, at some point?).

    I really hope Blair does return, he was an excellent Prime Minister. He was not a perfect Prime Minister, no PM ever is, but he modernised this country. He fixed up the NHS which was in a state of collapse when he entered office; he did away with some of the more indefensible elements of the constitution like hereditary peers having guaranteed seats in the Lords, brought in the minimum wage, brought 600,000 children out of poverty and presided over 10 years of one of this country's greatest ever periods of growth and prosperity. He would be far better than the political pygmy Labour currently has in the leadership

    Anyway, here's some footage from a 1996 PMQs with Blair kicking Major around the Commons chamber.

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    I very much doubt it, a lot has changed in 20 years. And we shouldn't forget that PMQs are not the be-all and end-all. Hague frequently gave Blair the runaround but he was still thrashed at the ballot box

    Blair, rather unfairly, is the most universally reviled public figure in the UK. He is hated on the left and on the right, and I can't see how he would be successful. He's a sort of bogey-man figure now, onto whom all bad is projected.

    Charismatic speaker with an excellent electoral record or not, there's no way the public could get behind him. And can you imagine all the cringeworthy attempts at citizen arrests of Blair for war crimes? Hard to lead in such circumstances.

    Having said that, Labour under the leadership of Blair the perceived antichrist would probably still be more electable than Labour with Diane Abbott as shadow home sec.
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    (Original post by tengentoppa)
    I very much doubt it, a lot has changed in 20 years. And we shouldn't forget that PMQs are not the be-all and end-all. Hague frequently gave Blair the runaround but he was still thrashed at the ballot box

    Blair, rather unfairly, is the most universally reviled public figure in the UK. He is hated on the left and on the right, and I can't see how he would be successful. He's a sort of bogey-man figure now, onto whom all bad is projected.

    Charismatic speaker with an excellent electoral record or not, there's no way the public could get behind him. And can you imagine all the cringeworthy attempts at citizen arrests of Blair for war crimes? Hard to lead in such circumstances.

    Having said that, Labour under the leadership of Blair the perceived antichrist would probably still be more electable than Labour with Diane Abbott as shadow home sec.
    I don't know about unfairly - I think we'll agree to disagree on that one - but you're right, there's no way he's getting elected. There's hardly a more hated man in Britain.
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    iraq though
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    This might be cheating but I'll just paste my comment from another thread:

    (Original post by KimKallstrom)
    Well obviously. Some people forget how successful a leader Blair was and they forget things like the introduction of the minimum wage (not that I agree with that, necessarily, but it was very popular nonetheless), the mountains of money pumped into the NHS, how easy it was to get jobs and loads of other things. However many others do not forget this because they haven't got memories like goldfish. I've said before that the country wants to vote Labour back in so long as they had a plausible candidate who appealed to the centre.

    People massively overstate the resentment of the Iraq War. There was resentment, yes, but people are acting like this was the main feature of Blair's government in the eyes of the people at the time. This is simply revisionist claptrap. Generally people look past foreign policy issues if the economy is doing well and people have secure jobs and money in their pockets, not the other way around. The only people who tend not to are students and the type of people who take their money for granted because they're always had it so they don't see the importance of job security to feed their families. That's why most Corbyn supporters are middle-class luvvies and why voters in the Labour heartlands can't stand the guy. For everyone else, the Blair years were characterised by a barnstorming job market. That's why most people won't touch Labour with a barge pole at the moment. Because they're veering away from what made them good and towards Trot Liverpool Council-style crap and an obsession over issues nobody except students care about.
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    https://www.change.org/p/tony-blair-...ter_responsive
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    I'd sign it. I'm very relaxed about it, he would take an absolute kicking from the electorate. He also looks knackered and stressed and is rich so I'm mystified why he wants to. He must be neurotic about his legacy, or still an egomaniac. It would be utterly hilarious tragicomedy and he would destroy his legacy even more.

    It shows how behind the curve, nostalgist and desperate that portion of Labour now is.
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    I've got a great deal of time for Blair - he was a very good PM - but everyone in politics has a shelf-life. He's been tarnished by the mistakes, compromises and grubby deals that are necessary to be Prime Minister for any length of time. He's also a priority target of the conspiracy theorists, extreme left and adolescent rebels who, while not all that important, do shout pretty loudly.
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    (Original post by AlexanderHam)
    Tony Blair hinted in an Esquire interview that he might be open to returning to frontline politics. I think it would be possible for him to win a leadership election due to the open-primary system that would allow hundreds of thousands of moderates to vote if they were given a candidate they could get behind (maybe Dan Jarvis, at some point?).

    I really hope Blair does return, he was an excellent Prime Minister. He was not a perfect Prime Minister, no PM ever is, but he modernised this country. He fixed up the NHS which was in a state of collapse when he entered office; he did away with some of the more indefensible elements of the constitution like hereditary peers having guaranteed seats in the Lords, brought in the minimum wage, brought 600,000 children out of poverty and presided over 10 years of one of this country's greatest ever periods of growth and prosperity. He would be far better than the political pygmy Labour currently has in the leadership

    Anyway, here's some footage from a 1996 PMQs with Blair kicking Major around the Commons chamber.

    Ah yes, the lib dem entryist, although I fundamentally disagree with Jeremy Corbyn on pretty much everything, I still have more respect for him than I do for Tony Blair.

    At least Corbyn sticks to his principles and doesn't sell out to get a whiff of power. Blair abolished hereditary peers so he could get a majority in the lords; as most hereditary peers were Tory, don't kid yourself that it was some noble (no pun intended) modernising reform.

    He also appointed that laughing stock Gordon Brown as chancellor and allowed him to wreck the economy without being replaced.

    He also started the Iraq war and caused the death of thousands of working class lads in the army based on a lie concocted by his partner in crime Dubya, the greedy **** probably lined his own pockets with the oil money they stole from Saddam. Also, moral issues with Iraq aside, if we go with the idea that they genuinely did believe they had WMDs, why did they leave a power vacuum? They didn't even install a proper government for god's sake.

    Blair also drove educational standards into the ground by dumbing down examinations which indirectly caused tuition fees, because more people getting high A Level grades automatically = more people applying for uni.

    He also created a dependency culture among the unemployed by making benefits more lucrative than actually going to work; which drove unemployment through the roof,

    All that considered, do you really think Blair would be much more popular that Corbyn?
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    well he is better then any of their candidates since. However I still dislike his politics a lot. i guess this is Labor they only ever get worse never better. I learned that when I found out that the guy running against Corbyn was even worse.

    That is good ol Labor for you no matter how bad they get you know they will always be worse next time.
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    (Original post by Luke7456)
    well he is better then any of their candidates since. However I still dislike his politics a lot. i guess this is Labor they only ever get worse never better. I learned that when I found out that the guy running against Corbyn was even worse.

    That is good ol Labor for you no matter how bad they get you know they will always be worse next time.
    Define "better", if you mean more centrist than yeah, but just because someone agrees with you more doesn't make them better than the people that disagree with you, that's a dangerous line of thought

    Blair is a lying corrupt scumbag, he's literally a political chameleon, Brown was a miserable git and a total failure but in fairness he stuck to his guns and said "we'll carry on doing what we've been doing" which makes him a better person than Blair ; Miliband did compromise his principles a bit in the face of harsh media criticism but in fairness to him he was a firmly against a potential coalition with the SNP to the bitter end, which makes him a better person than Blair and Corbyn I've already mentioned sticks to his democratic socialism despite all his MPs trying to knife him in the back, which makes him a much better person than Blair.
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    He also started the Iraq war and caused the death of thousands of working class lads in the army based on a lie concocted by his partner in crime Dubya, the greedy **** probably lined his own pockets with the oil money they stole from Saddam. Also, moral issues with Iraq aside, if we go with the idea that they genuinely did believe they had WMDs, why did they leave a power vacuum? They didn't even install a proper government for god's sake.
    Only 179 British servicemen died in the Iraq War.
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    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather have Blair as PM than Corbyn.
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    (Original post by Cato the Elder)
    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather have Blair as PM than Corbyn.
    There is zero chance of that. The Labour Party just isn't there any more. The current leadership hates Blair and Blairites more than Conservatives
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    He would get destroyed. He's widely despised now with good reason. He's basically the British Hillary. Be in office, start a bunch of pointless horrific wars, encourage mass immigration, take away the rights of the common man then leave office and become super rich taking money from oil barons in Saudi Arabia.
 
 
 
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