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Reply 1
are your hands and feet usually cold/clammy?
Im not expert but maybe its got to do with poor circulation.
I advise seeing a doctor though to be sure :smile:
Reply 2
sometimes if i go for a run my fingers swell up which can be quite painful but they usually go down after about 45 mins if i put some ice on them, does it happen after any specific event such as exercise etc?
Reply 3
Could be a lot of things (nothing very serious I doubt though, so don't worry!), so it's probably best to go see a doctor.
Reply 4
It happens to me when it's hot weather
Reply 5
There could be several reasons for this.

Swinging them alot in hot weather can cause them to inflate

It could be clubbing of the fingers(which is extremely serious, although since you have foot symptoms this is unlikely)

My diagnosis would be fluid retention dropsy or rsd / cprs

Maybe you should visit a proper doctor not just a wannabe premed? :biggrin:
DanielIvtsan
There could be several reasons for this.

Swinging them alot in hot weather can cause them to inflate

It could be clubbing of the fingers(which is extremely serious, although since you have foot symptoms this is unlikely)

My diagnosis would be fluid retention dropsy or rsd / cprs

Maybe you should visit a proper doctor not just a wannabe premed? :biggrin:

clubbing of the fingers is not serious, and where you plucked 'fluid retention dropsy' from, i don't know.
Anonymous
do any of u guys know what could be causing swollen fingers / toes?
it happens to me on and off- right now the fingers on my right hand are swollen and its painful to type with them:frown:

Could be a number of different things, but it sounds worth visiting your GP and both describing the symtpoms and hisory of your problem, and showing the current problem - in that respects it makes sense to go during one of these flare ups.

In the meantime some simple paracetamol and ibuprofen will help with the pain and swelling.
Reply 8
Jamie
clubbing of the fingers is not serious, and where you plucked 'fluid retention dropsy' from, i don't know.


forgot a comma, fluid rentention, dropsy. Better? :smile:

And clubbing is VERY serious

Lung disease:
Lung cancer, mainly large-cell (35% of all cases), not seen frequently in small cell lung cancer[3]
Interstitial lung disease
Tuberculosis
Bronchiectasis
Suppurative lung disease: lung abscess, empyema
Cystic fibrosis
Pulmonary hypertension
Mesothelioma
It is worth noting that clubbing is not associated with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). Indeed, the presence of clubbing in a patient with COPD should prompt a search for an underlying (lung) cancer.
Heart disease:
Any disease featuring chronic hypoxia
Congenital cyanotic heart disease (most common cardiac cause)
Subacute bacterial endocarditis
Atrial myxoma (benign tumor)

See?
DanielIvtsan
forgot a comma, fluid rentention, dropsy. Better? :smile:

And clubbing is VERY serious

Lung disease:
Lung cancer, mainly large-cell (35% of all cases), not seen frequently in small cell lung cancer[3]
Interstitial lung disease
Tuberculosis
Bronchiectasis
Suppurative lung disease: lung abscess, empyema
Cystic fibrosis
Pulmonary hypertension
Mesothelioma
It is worth noting that clubbing is not associated with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). Indeed, the presence of clubbing in a patient with COPD should prompt a search for an underlying (lung) cancer.
Heart disease:
Any disease featuring chronic hypoxia
Congenital cyanotic heart disease (most common cardiac cause)
Subacute bacterial endocarditis
Atrial myxoma (benign tumor)

See?


Did they not teach you in your google medical degree that the most common cause of clubbing is....nothing. Its congenital/idiopathic. Second most common...manual labour.

>80% of lung cancer patients are smokers. But that doesn't make smoking a sign of lung cancer does it.
Jamie
Did they not teach you in your google medical degree that the most common cause of clubbing is....nothing. Its congenital/idiopathic. Second most common...manual labour.

>80% of lung cancer patients are smokers. But that doesn't make smoking a sign of lung cancer does it.


Okay so if he has clubbing on his fingers, since it PROBABLY won't kill him, he should leave it.

Sensible.
DanielIvtsan
Okay so if he has clubbing on his fingers, since it PROBABLY won't kill him, he should leave it.

Sensible.

Clubbing will never hurt you. Its a sign, not a symptom.
It doesn't hurt, and 99% of the people who have it are never aware they do until some sprightly medical student/doctor says 'o, you have clubbed fingers'.
And there is nothing that can be done about clubbed fingers anyway. They just are, and no-one really knows why.
Jamie
Clubbing will never hurt you. Its a sign, not a symptom.
It doesn't hurt, and 99% of the people who have it are never aware they do until some sprightly medical student/doctor says 'o, you have clubbed fingers'.
And there is nothing that can be done about clubbed fingers anyway. They just are, and no-one really knows why.


...... Are you serious?

I was implying he should check the cause of his clubbed fingers(were he to have them, which i'm rather sure he doesn't) because the cause may be fatal and curable. geez.
Reply 13
DanielIvtsan
...... Are you serious?

I was implying he should check the cause of his clubbed fingers(were he to have them, which i'm rather sure he doesn't) because the cause may be fatal and curable. geez.

Have you gone to medical school yet?

Clubbing is WAY overrated as a sign. It's totally non-specific and fairly non-sensitive. It's just one of those things you check for at the start of an examination, but it's never going to lead you to a diagnosis (in my opinion, anyway). Oh, and you can actually get toe clubbing too, but it's a later sign.

Yes, the OP should probably go to the GP when her fingers/toes are bad, but as it's unlikely it's actually clubbing, you're really going a bit OTT here.
DanielIvtsan
...... Are you serious?

I was implying he should check the cause of his clubbed fingers(were he to have them, which i'm rather sure he doesn't) because the cause may be fatal and curable. geez.

Yes I'm serious, its all just common sense.
Plus I have a distinct knowledge advantage over you evidently.
Helenia
Have you gone to medical school yet?

Clubbing is WAY overrated as a sign. It's totally non-specific and fairly non-sensitive. It's just one of those things you check for at the start of an examination, but it's never going to lead you to a diagnosis (in my opinion, anyway). Oh, and you can actually get toe clubbing too, but it's a later sign.

Yes, the OP should probably go to the GP when her fingers/toes are bad, but as it's unlikely it's actually clubbing, you're really going a bit OTT here.


My discussion was entirely with Jamie, not aimed at the OP as i stated in my post, he obviously doesn't have clubbing. If i saw clubbing on my fingers, i'd be at a GP in 20 seconds. You don't ignore the signs of lung cancer just because it's not always showing lung cancer.
Sorry for double post, edit button isnt my friend...

"Yes I'm serious, its all just common sense.
Plus I have a distinct knowledge advantage over you evidently."

If you saw clubbing on someones fingers, you would not warn them to see a GP. i Pray you never become a doctor. And don't patronize me.
Reply 17
DanielIvtsan
Sorry for double post, edit button isnt my friend...

"Yes I'm serious, its all just common sense.
Plus I have a distinct knowledge advantage over you evidently."

If you saw clubbing on someones fingers, you would not warn them to see a GP. i Pray you never become a doctor. And don't patronize me.

With a little luck and some work, in two years I will be. Which is, I'm guessing, much sooner than you. This (and Jamie's) may seem patronising, but we do actually have a fair amount of training - him more than me.

I may be wrong (though as far as I'm aware I'm not, obviously) but clubbing alone would not alarm me. Clubbing plus something else would, yes. But on its own? It's about as specific and useful as a headache or "tired all the time," possibly less so.
DanielIvtsan
Sorry for double post, edit button isnt my friend...

"Yes I'm serious, its all just common sense.
Plus I have a distinct knowledge advantage over you evidently."

If you saw clubbing on someones fingers, you would not warn them to see a GP. i Pray you never become a doctor. And don't patronize me.


I already am a doctor, and have seen many many people with clubbing. I document it along with a gazillion other findings that have low specifity, and even lower sensitivity. I don't bother to do anything about it unless there are other signs that might correlate. Such as dyspnoea. Or haemoptysis. Or a changing murmur etc etc.

The reason you find me patronising is entirely due to the fact you obviously hold yourself in such high regard, and don't have a clue how little you know.

I'm guessing you have just finished 6th form where you were top of the class for years, and have nver been faced with the fact there are people smarter, more educated or simply further along the career path than yourself.
Reply 19
Thanks for the replies guys,

Sweetest.x.Sin -- no, my hands/feet are not cold /clammy, unless im in a cold room (but thats normal ,right?)

Rainygal -yes, that has happened to me at times- fingers swelling after running/ walking for a long time. -- but the thing is it happens even when i havent done any such activity. eg. im sitting at the table studying and my feet/hands are swollen .

DanielIvtsan - i cudnt find anything about clubbing of fingers on the wikipedia - so i dunno - but looking looking at the symptoms that have been listed for the fluid retension thing, - thankfully they dont match mine- so it cant be that.

Jamie -i know that i should probably go during one of these flare ups, but the thing is- whenever it happens, due to some reason or the other im not able to go.
eg. the car is being fixed, etc...

and plus what "kind" of a doc will i have to see anyway? a g.p.? or something?