Should graduates be guaranteed jobs?

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    After working hard for 3/4 years, should those who graduate with what is considered to be a decent grade (2:1 or above) be guaranteed a job on graduation?

    I believe they should be, especially after the large amount of debt that would have been accumulated upon graduation and the fact that those with a degree are much more employable than those without one.
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    (Original post by Plucky17)
    After working hard for 3/4 years, should those who graduate with what is considered to be a decent grade (2:1 or above) be guaranteed a job on graduation?

    I believe they should be, especially after the large amount of debt that would have been accumulated upon graduation and the fact that those with a degree are much more employable than those without one.

    100% no.

    If they were much more employable, then they would get a job the normal way.
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    No because employers shouldn't be forced to hire someone if they don't want to. Otherwise that's like reverse slavery.
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    Why should anyone be guaranteed a job?

    People would go to university on the promise of a job, and a significant proportion of those should not go to university (a significant proportion shouldn't go to university already).

    Going to university does not necessarily make you more employable. In some cases it makes you less employable.


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    Good grief. Whatever next - 72 virgins for any male MSc graduate?
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    You can get a guaranteed job though... join the military.
    Especially if you have a degree.
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    My word, absolutely not.

    You students actually need to put some work in for once in your lives. Graduates are not entitled to a single thing - no job, no home, no food, etc. Why on earth do you feel as though you deserve to waltz straight into a job after three years of partying and drinking? You need to work your backsides off and earn it - there is no such thing as a free lunch. Students have it easy enough as it is.
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    (Original post by showmethat)
    No because employers shouldn't be forced to hire someone if they don't want to. Otherwise that's like reverse slavery.
    I didn't use the word forced, more so that companies should partner with top universities to guarantee that the brightest and the best are given the decent opportunities they deserve and have worked hard to achieve.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    100% no.

    If they were much more employable, then they would get a job the normal way.
    But that's the issue here. Graduates from top universities should get certain benefits over those attending lower ranked universities and certainly those who don't even have a degree.

    EDIT: to clarify my point, (apologies if this seems like a crude analogy) you wouldn't expect Manchester United to play a Sunday league amateur football club in the first round of the fa cup. So why should the top graduates be expected to do, in essence, what is the same thing and waste time competing against those others?
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    (Original post by cbreef)
    You can get a guaranteed job though... join the military.
    Especially if you have a degree.
    not if you don;t meet the entry requirements

    which is the fundamental issue wth the proposition the OP makes regardless of the employer ...
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    No. You need to work hard and compete with the rest of the world fairly.
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    (Original post by Plucky17)
    But that's the issue here. Graduates from top universities should get certain benefits over those attending lower ranked universities and certainly those who don't even have a degree.

    EDIT: to clarify my point, (apologies if this seems like a crude analogy) you wouldn't expect Manchester United to play a Sunday league amateur football club in the first round of the fa cup. So why should the top graduates be expected to do, in essence, what is the same thing and waste time competing against those others?
    How breathtakingly self entitled. You already have a massive advantage going to Uni. If you are claiming to be the best and the brightest, then dont you think employers will see whether you represent good value for money or not. In the real world a 2:1 or a first doesnt automatically translate into someone who is good at their job or can make money.

    Why are you so insecure that you wont compete in a free and open labour market but have to have rights guaranteed for you?
    What you have posted is incredibly arrogant and fails to understand how the real world works.

    Top graduate doesnt always mean best employee and definitely not a self entitled one. You ought to be shamed of yourself if you werent too busy expecting the world owes you a living.
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    Looks like 1 vs The World here.

    I'm joining Team World - (assuming the University/company partnership suggestion) success in the education system does not translate directly to job performance. There are numerous industries that prefer their applicants straight from college, or advise doing a degree in another field because or just how poorly university translates to the practicalities of their work.

    Many companies are developing apprenticeships faster than grad schemes - apprentices can be molded to company needs and statistically are much more loyal - overall a better investment.

    Although degrees are indispensable to many technical trades there is no reason why someone who has completed three years of subsidised schooling should be prioritised over the person that joined the company at eighteen and has been working from the bottom for three years.

    Should a company have need for graduates who are they going to want - The top scorer from a top university that they are obliged to take, or a good scorer from a good university that convinces them that he/she is the one for that role?
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    I don't think so.

    You should earn one using the skills you've acquired from your degree
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    Who do you suppose should guarantee to provide these jobs?
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    (Original post by Plucky17)
    After working hard for 3/4 years, should those who graduate with what is considered to be a decent grade (2:1 or above) be guaranteed a job on graduation?

    I believe they should be, especially after the large amount of debt that would have been accumulated upon graduation and the fact that those with a degree are much more employable than those without one.
    Lol

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    Apparently, in the past, in my country (the Soviet Union) whilst a student was still at university, he or she would get sort of like a referral to a job .. maybe not a particularly prestigious one, maybe not even one of their own choice, but still. That way, therefore, you had a guarantee of a secured employment - to follow after your studies are over.
    In contrast to how things are now these days (quite possibly in Russia itself too, and elsewhere) - when you can graduate and then remain with no job offer or available employment opportunity and have to fend for yourself.
    Which model or approach is more appealing - it is for everyone to choose for themselves.
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    Yes and a five bedroom house in London.

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    (Original post by zippyRN)
    not if you don;t meet the entry requirements

    which is the fundamental issue wth the proposition the OP makes regardless of the employer ...
    Pretty much any able bodied graduate or non graduate under the age of 40 could become a soldier. Even if you're not the fittest guy in the world by any stretch of the imagination.
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    No. Stupid idea.
 
 
 
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