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    Paper 3 no longer contains the range of all of the HL Maths options, only the ONE you register for...

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    Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy???

    Has anyone else heard about this?

    I just asked my Director of Studies, he said the IBO announced it this summer, and my SL Further Maths teacher (examiner and exam-checker person) is furious as it's simply because IB examiners are too stupid to have knowledge of all the options!!!
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    (Original post by charliebarlow)
    Paper 3 no longer contains the range of all of the HL Maths options, only the ONE you register for...

    :eek:

    Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy???

    Has anyone else heard about this?

    I just asked my Director of Studies, he said the IBO announced it this summer, and my SL Further Maths teacher (examiner and exam-checker person) is furious as it's simply because IB examiners are too stupid to have knowledge of all the options!!!
    And to deter people from answering options which they have never studied. This happened at my school, and well, they failed.
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    Well, in all honesty you'd be stupid to answer a topic you had not studied; and deserve to fail the paper. Apologies for the harshness of that reality.

    It is very unfair on Further Maths students though; as we *should* be capable of anwsering any of the options. For example, there may be a really bad question on one option, which you would like to avoid by choosing another option.
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    (Original post by charliebarlow)
    Well, in all honesty you'd be stupid to answer a topic you had not studied; and deserve to fail the paper. Apologies for the harshness of that reality.
    Have you never learned not to state the obvious?
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    It just seems a really silly reason not to offer that flexibility to students.

    Students are able to choose options for Science paper 3 exams, why not maths...
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    I completely agree, I never said I didn't. For chemistry I answered other options than what the rest of the class did, since they were choosing option according to the criteria "which one is easiest", while I wanted to do something that might prepare me a little for my future course at university (further organic chemistry; I know I have said how much I disliked the rote-learning aspect of organic chemistry, but trust me, this option encourages chemical intuition and critical thinking like no other).
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    I heard this from my Maths teacher during exams, and it is indeed extremely silly. I will retake maths in May 08 (since I'm gapping this year), and by then I will have self-taught all options, so I will be in a similar situation to you Charlie. However, I guess it is just to try to make the best out of it and sign up for the one you're most confident about. For me that would be the series/DE one...
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    This has nothing to do with the fact that HL maths options vary in terms of difficulty, right? I.e. statistics generally deemed to be the 'easier' of the options, for example?
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    this is off topic but i saw ur signature..what was ur conditional offer for entering st george??
    do they still accept u even if u dont take math hl?
    thxx
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    (Original post by naimslim89)
    This has nothing to do with the fact that HL maths options vary in terms of difficulty, right? I.e. statistics generally deemed to be the 'easier' of the options, for example?
    Yes, they claim so. However I can't see why it'd be necessary for them to know which student takes which option beforehand. Surely they could mark (and set the gradeboundaries for) the options individually anyway?
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    (Original post by nota bene)
    Yes, they claim so. However I can't see why it'd be necessary for them to know which student takes which option beforehand. Surely they could mark (and set the gradeboundaries for) the options individually anyway?
    Exactly. What has this got to do with certain options being easier than others? It's not like you would be able to answer statistics during your exam if you felt the option you had studied for was too hard.

    I think the people who will be affected the most are those who wish to answer something else than what the IBC or class teacher has decided to do (this including further maths SL students). I mean, in rare cases the teachers have such poor knowledge of mathematics that they will force the class to do but one option (the one which the teacher understands best) and thus it seems unfair to prevent students from doing the one they find most interesting.
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    I don't know what all the fuss is about. Teachers rarely find time to teach a 2nd option, and incase you want to self-study another option you can request your teacher to help you and register for that option instead of the 1 the class is being taught.

    The proposed change results in better assessment for the candidates anyway. In the earlier system the examiner team did not know what option a student would select, and hence the examiners for paper 3 had to be proficient in all 4 options. Now the team can be split so that each option can be marked by specialist examiners, which will in turn benefit the candidates.

    Te new scheme also results in different boundaries for each option, which is good for people complaining that the Series and Diff option is much harder than Stats and is yet subjected to the same boundaries. Now if one option is harder than another this will be reflected in the boundaries.

    (Original post by charliebarrow)
    Students are able to choose options for Science paper 3 exams, why not maths...
    Uhh because group 4 options can be mugged even 2 days before the exam. Can you do that for maths?

    This will also help the IBO in saving on printing costs etc

    It is very unfair on Further Maths students though; as we *should* be capable of anwsering any of the options. For example, there may be a really bad question on one option, which you would like to avoid by choosing another option.
    Perhaps it is unfair, yeah. But even though theoretically an FM student can choose any option, they generally select the option done in their HL class. The time alloted for the exam - one hour with a 5 minute reading period - is not enough for a student to experiment with options. It is time effective to know beforehand what option you will be solving.
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    Correct me if I am wrong but dont you specifically MARK on the cover sheet which questions you have done so that it can easily be distributed to the correct examiner???
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    (Original post by Maffian)
    Correct me if I am wrong but dont you specifically MARK on the cover sheet which questions you have done so that it can easily be distributed to the correct examiner???
    Yep.
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    (Original post by Maffian)
    Correct me if I am wrong but dont you specifically MARK on the cover sheet which questions you have done so that it can easily be distributed to the correct examiner???
    That won't really ease distribution, since they don't know how many students will be choosing any particular option beforehand. The school sends them all together to 1 examiner, whereas from now on separate addresses will be sent to the school for each option.
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    I still maintain that it's ridiculous...

    I might not be able to take the option I want to take: "Discrete Mathematics" as my teachers are worried about me being the 'oddball' and concerned I might not have the use of a teacher to aid revision... *sniff*
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    That's not even related to the fact that you have to choose your option early now. Your teachers would have been worried irrespective of the fact that options have to be chosen in advance now. It's not like they're stopping you from choosing the option because they have to register you for it early now, it's because you won't have a teacher to help you, which would have been the case whether or not the options had to be chosen in advance or not.
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    But I've been taught the option in Further Maths classes already, and IMO it's the easiest. They just want me to prove to them that I won't **** up by not having (many) revision classes for the option.
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    So prove it. :\
 
 
 

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