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    Oh wow, I see now! Thank you so much for explaining, generalebriety! ^__^
    As for "sich versprechen", yes, I meant "to misspeak" (because I do at times lol.XD).
    The "n" thing always confuses me, I think it's mianly because of "büchern", looks a bit odd.^^;; But glad to finally know how it works!^___^

    I am now finding German much more fascinating than before [I love the language now. ]! =D Thanks again!
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    (Original post by Nimbus)
    Oh wow, I see now! Thank you so much for explaining, generalebriety! ^__^
    As for "sich versprechen", yes, I meant "to misspeak" (because I do at times lol.XD).
    The "n" thing always confuses me, I think it's mianly because of "büchern", looks a bit odd.^^;; But glad to finally know how it works!^___^

    I am now finding German much more fascinating than before [I love the language now. ]! =D Thanks again!
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    "Büchern" sieht vielleicht auf den ersten Blick komisch aus, aber man wird es bald gewohnt.
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    (Original post by generalebriety)
    "Büchern" sieht vielleicht auf den ersten Blick komisch aus, aber man wird es bald gewohnt.
    Ja! ^__^. Hoffentlich werde ich mich an es gewohnen. [<--totally guessing here.XD]
    Vielen Dank!. =D
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    (Original post by generalebriety)
    "Heit"/"keit" are determined by the sounds in front of them. You'd normally use "keit" after an -ich or an -ig (which sound identical in most parts of Germany), because "Freundlichhhheit" would sound stupid. There are exceptions, but this is a good general rule. Also, I may be making this up, but I think "heit"/"keit" turns adjectives into nouns and "ung" turns verbs into nouns... but I'm open to correction on that one.
    You do say "Frechheit", "Schwachheit" and "Gleichheit", though...
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    (Original post by generalebriety)
    "Büchern" sieht vielleicht auf den ersten Blick komisch aus, aber man gewöhnt sich bald daran.
    This is a bit tricky, actually: "etwas gewohnt sein" / "gewohnt sein etwas zu tun" means "to be used to" (as does "an etwas gewöhnt sein" / "daran gewöhnt sein etwas zu tun"), but "to get used to" is "sich an etwas gewöhnen".
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    (Original post by Nimbus)
    Ja! ^__^. Hoffentlich werde ich mich an es gewohnen. [<--totally guessing here.XD]
    Vielen Dank!. =D
    "Daran". And don't forget the umlaut in "gewöhnen".
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    (Original post by hobnob)
    You do say "Frechheit", "Schwachheit" and "Gleichheit", though...
    ...none of which ends in an -ich sound.

    (Original post by hobnob)
    This is a bit tricky, actually: "etwas gewohnt sein" / "gewohnt sein etwas zu tun" means "to be used to" (as does "an etwas gewöhnt sein" / "daran gewöhnt sein etwas zu tun"), but "to get used to" is "sich an etwas gewöhnen".
    You can also say "ich bin das gewohnt", though, can't you? So surely "ich werde das gewohnt" would make sense? I admit, I've never heard it, and I'm not sure why I didn't choose your alternative. :p:
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    (Original post by generalebriety)
    ...none of which ends in an -ich sound.
    "Gleichheit" does, strictly speaking. During the second part of the diphthong, the tongue is exactly in the same position, and it's the same ch-sound.
    You can also say "ich bin das gewohnt", though, can't you?
    No. You hear it occasionally, but that's just people getting mixed up between "gewöhnt" and "gewohnt". It isn't actually grammatically correct.
    So surely "ich werde das gewohnt" would make sense? I admit, I've never heard it, and I'm not sure why I didn't choose your alternative. :p:
    No, it wouldn't. Sorry. "Gewohnt" only works for the state of being used to something, but for the act (or process, if you wish) of getting used to something, you need "sich gewöhnen".
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    (Original post by hobnob)
    "Gleichheit" does, strictly speaking. During the second part of the diphthong, the tongue is exactly in the same position, and it's the same ch-sound.
    Mmm, I was being slightly facetious. :p: That said, I've always seen "Frechheit" as an exception, I've never heard "Gleichheit", and the sound in "Schwachheit" isn't the same. So... *shrugs* :p:

    (Original post by hobnob)
    No. You hear it occasionally, but that's just people getting mixed up between "gewöhnt" and "gewohnt". It isn't actually grammatically correct.
    Eek, really? I've always thought it was perfectly legitimate, if a bit grammatically screwed up. And, in fact, having checked in the Langenscheidt dictionary and my big Collins one, they both accept it - the former gives the examples "Ich bin (es) gewohnt, spät ins Bett zu gehen" and "Er war schwere körperliche Arbeit nicht gewohnt".

    So, can you only "gewohnt sein" an action, and not an object? And for an object you'd use "an etwas gewöhnt sein"?

    (Original post by hobnob)
    No, it wouldn't. Sorry. "Gewohnt" only works for the state of being used to something, but for the act (or process, if you wish) of getting used to something, you need "sich gewöhnen".
    Ahh, ok. Thanks.
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    (Original post by generalebriety)
    Mmm, I was being slightly facetious. :p: That said, I've always seen "Frechheit" as an exception, I've never heard "Gleichheit", and the sound in "Schwachheit" isn't the same. So... *shrugs* :p:
    Really? You never heard "Freiheit, Gleichheit, Brüderlichkeit"? Anyway, I think it might have something to do with the syllable "-lich" - or at least I can't come up with any exceptions there off the top of my head.

    So, can you only "gewohnt sein" an action, and not an object? And for an object you'd use "an etwas gewöhnt sein"?
    That's what I was taught in third grade, anyway.:dontknow: Abstract concepts are an exception, though, I think, so "ich bin Kummer gewohnt" should be OK.
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    (Original post by hobnob)
    Really? You never heard "Freiheit, Gleichheit, Brüderlichkeit"?
    Only in French. :p:

    (Original post by hobnob)
    Anyway, I think it might have something to do with the syllable "-lich" - or at least I can't come up with any exceptions there off the top of my head.
    Yeah, you're probably right.

    (Original post by hobnob)
    That's what I was taught in third grade, anyway.:dontknow: Abstract concepts are an exception, though, I think, so "ich bin Kummer gewohnt" should be OK.
    Hmm, alright. Thanks anyway.
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    If I messaged someone what I've written so far for my German oral, would anyone be willing to check it through and get it back to me today/first thing tomorrow morning? I'd be ever so grateful, because I feel like absolutely none of it makes sense.
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    Hi kjc_us,

    go ahead and I'll see what I can do.
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    Woah...words.. @[email protected]
    I must note down some of these things. *scribbles*

    And cool, hobnob! Your name became purple again(somehow, Ididn't realise that)! ^__^

    Hmm, "daran", oh wait, is it something like "an das.."? Like the way "dafür" is like "für das"?
    [Yes, I don't really know what these little words really are, like dran. *starts to learn them*].
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    (Original post by Nimbus)
    Woah...words.. @[email protected]
    I must note down some of these things. *scribbles*

    And cool, hobnob! Your name became purple again(somehow, Ididn't realise that)! ^__^

    Hmm, "daran", oh wait, is it something like "an das.."? Like the way "dafür" is like "für das"?
    [Yes, I don't really know what these little words really are, like dran. *starts to learn them*].
    Exactly. Dafür, damit, daran, dabei, darunter, darüber, darauf, etc. No "*darohne", though.
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    (Original post by generalebriety)
    Exactly. Dafür, damit, daran, dabei, darunter, darüber, darauf, etc. No "*darohne", though.
    Woah? :eek: No way!!
    Cool! And I always thought they were somekind of "supernatural" German words!
    This is quite freaky for me. 0__0
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    (Original post by Nimbus)
    Woah? :eek: No way!!
    Cool! And I always thought they were somekind of "supernatural" German words!
    This is quite freaky for me. 0__0
    :rofl:

    I don't know what you mean by that but I'm happy you're happy.
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    well, I wanted to ask "have I asked to join the society" by saying "habe ich eintreten die Gesellschaft gefragt but Friederike says that's totally wrong and the construction she said is correct, I would never have used, so I'll just ask in English

    Have I requested to join, because I'm still not a member
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    (Original post by wtid)
    well, I wanted to ask "have I asked to join the society" by saying "habe ich eintreten die Gesellschaft gefragt but Friederike says that's totally wrong and the construction she said is correct, I would never have used, so I'll just ask in English

    Have I requested to join, because I'm still not a member
    No, you haven't.
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    Danke, grizzlybar.

    I'm back to school tomorrow. So I guess I won't see you all for a good few months!

    Anyone taking exams, hope they go well.
 
 
 
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