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    B1071 – Flu Vaccination Bill 2016, adam9317 MP and mobbsy91 MP
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    Abolish nationwide flu vaccination for those under 18.

    BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:—

    1 Abolition of nationwide flu vaccine for those under 18
    The flu vaccination currently offered in schools to those under 18 is hereby abolished.

    2 Exemptions
    (1) Anyone under 18 with a preexisting medical condition, and at the advice of their GP can be vaccinated by their GP for free.
    (2) Anyone under 18 who wishes, or their parents wish them to be vaccinated, that is not mentioned in 2(1) can also be vaccinated at their expense by their GP, after consulting their advice

    3 Short title, commencement and extent
    (1) This Act may be cited as the Flu Vaccination Bill.
    (2) This Act comes into force on 1 April 2017.
    (3) This Act extends to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

    Notes
    - This turns the flu vaccine for kids from an opt out system to that where you opt in
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    Can you give me any reasoning for this?
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    (Original post by SoggyCabbages)
    Can you give me any reasoning for this?
    Because it's a waste of money?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Because it's a waste of money?
    How is the protection of the people against disease a waste of money?
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    The notes are wrong... it's definitely opt in and this wouldn't work with the compulsory vaccinations bill would it?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Because it's a waste of money?
    Nice opinion, I tend to listen to facts as well.
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    Wipe out herd immunity, that'll help to bring down overpopulation. I whole-heartedly agree.

    ...nay.
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    The flu jab is only 60% efficient, it should be saved for NHS professionals, the over 65s, or the medically vulnerable. Depending on supply, we may end up in a situation where we cannot supply every worker in the NHS with a flu vaccine as happened last year with the TB vaccine.
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    Absolutely! So much money is spent on this, and we shouldn't just be throwing medicine at everything, or otherwise, in x years, it won't be antibiotics that will become useless, but flu vaccines too!
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Absolutely! So much money is spent on this, and we shouldn't just be throwing medicine at everything, or otherwise, in x years, it won't be antibiotics that will become useless, but flu vaccines too!
    You know that flu vaccines change every year because every year it's a different strain that is the threat :erm:
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    (Original post by Aph)
    You know that flu vaccines change every year because every year it's a different strain that is the threat :erm:
    Yeh, I was thinking that, but once I started typing, couldn't really be bothered to press backspace. Here's (in a strange way) hoping that in 10 years we're screwed because of too many flu vaccinations, and I can whip this thread out and tell the world how I predicted this :giggle:
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    Nay until a clear explanation is offered as to why this is needed.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    How is the protection of the people against disease a waste of money?
    Because even on good years its effectiveness is limited. On a good year the CDC suggests it's 50-60%, on bad years it barely hits double figures, and the average seems to be around the 40% mark.

    http://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals...ss-studies.htm

    For the highly vulnerable fair enough provide it, it could actually save their lives, bit for young healthy people, well, there is a reason the vast majority of people have to pay.

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    Nah.
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    this is absurd, we should be vaccinating more, not less
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    Nay, this is anti-business. More children have the flu, more parents have to take time off work at short notice if childcare cannot be arranged on the day. So winter staffing can become a problem for some businesses.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Because even on good years its effectiveness is limited. On a good year the CDC suggests it's 50-60%, on bad years it barely hits double figures, and the average seems to be around the 40% mark.

    http://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals...ss-studies.htm

    For the highly vulnerable fair enough provide it, it could actually save their lives, bit for young healthy people, well, there is a reason the vast majority of people have to pay.

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    If these vaccinations save one life of a child, then there is nothing worth paying more than that. A person’s life is worth far more than any property or amount of wealth a man or woman could own.

    Nay.
 
 
 
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