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Parents face court for refusing son on a trip to a mosque watch

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    This was in Germany, should the son be alllowed to opt out or should he be made to have gone on the school trip?
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7385451.html
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    This is wrong. They shouldn't have been fined or have to go through court.
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    Given their rationale I think they need to be sent on a trip to a mosque. Assuming your son will turn into a terrorist if he goes in a mosque...

    Still, dealing with this through the courts smacks of heavy handedness. That approach will simply reinforce how the parents feel, and give them a persecution complex that will naturally provide fuel to their views. Should their son be educated about other religions? Yes. Is making such an issue about a school trip the best approach to that? I doubt it. Perhaps in this case teaching him about Islam (and ideally the parents) in the classroom may be a better approach.
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    I don't think there's a need for court
    The headteacher could just have a meeting with them and talk about the benefits of the trip. At the end of the day if the parents refuse to let their son participate then that's their choice.
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    Their reasoning for refusing is pretty stupid.
    The majority of mosques just provide a place to pray and read Quran, nothing 'extreme' about that.
    Maybe they should have a visit themselves to clear their ignorance.

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    Yet critics have pointed out that Mr Heumann is a former member of anti-immigrant party Alternative for Germany (AfD) and helped found the Dugida, a branch of the far-right Pegida movement, which warns against Islamisation of society.
    oh fancy that.

    Trouble with legislating for normal sensible people is that you inevitably run into someone who 'wants to make a point goddamnit'

    see also Northern Irish gay cakes or this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6068408.stm
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    Who on Earth wouldn't want their kids doing this kind of stuff?

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    Fantastic to see that some parents have the courage to stand up to the Islamification of the west. Ridiculous that they have to face court.
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    (Original post by #ChaosKass)
    Fantastic to see that some parents have the courage to stand up to the Islamification of the west. Ridiculous that they have to face court.
    lol sfu u ignorant ugly islamophobe
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    I don't think any parent should be forced to send their child on a trip to a mosque or any religious institution if they don't want to. Germany is a secular country, going to mosques or synanagogues or temples or anyone shouldn't be forced.

    As a Christian, I certainly would not want to visit a mosque or any place where they worship false Gods.
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    They should be allowed to refuse a trip to the mosque if they want to.Surely thats not illegal or do we have thought crimes now? I don't see how wasting a day at a mosque is of any educational benefit whatsoever.Unless a strong negative focus was put on it.That might be educationally beneficial.
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    (Original post by zezno)
    lol sfu u ignorant ugly islamophobe
    I hate to break it to you, but your silly little buzzwords like "islamophobe" don't really faze anybody anymore.
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    (Original post by Wōden)
    I hate to break it to you, but your silly little buzzwords like "islamophobe" don't really faze anybody anymore.
    I hate to break it to you, but I don't give a **** about your opinion lol
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    It's awful. No one should be forced to go to a Osage or learn anything about a religion in a secular country like Germany. In the U.K., since our fofical religion is the Church of England, it would be fine to maybe learn about it but even then I don't think any parent should be forced to send their child to a church or any place like that.
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    (Original post by HAnwar)
    Their reasoning for refusing is pretty stupid.
    The majority of mosques just provide a place to pray and read Quran, nothing 'extreme' about that.
    Maybe they should have a visit themselves to clear their ignorance.

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    So you'd be fine with going to a church on a school trip and reading the Bible?
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    Germany has systemic problems with freedom of conscience in its state school system. It is also one of the few countries in the world that bans home schooling.
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    (Original post by biglad2k16)
    So you'd be fine with going to a church on a school trip and reading the Bible?
    Well I'm a Muslim, and in my younger years we had to go to a Church as a school trip.
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    (Original post by biglad2k16)
    So you'd be fine with going to a church on a school trip and reading the Bible?
    isn't that what we do in R.S. anyway
    and as a Muslim I have been to a Church before, and a Temple, and did some Buddhist spirituality course where they try and get you to connect to your inner soul
    I find other religions very interesting and fascinating and love learning about them
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    I remember going on a trip to a Cathedral as a child during primary school. Similarly, my primary school also offered trips to other religious buildings such as Hindu Temples. I found that the experience allowed me to better understand those of a different viewpoint as a child, which is becoming more important as we move into a more multicultural society here in Britain.
    However, there's nothing wrong with parents refusing to allow their children to visit such places if they don't feel comfortable, though I feel that the reason these parents gave was a bit worrying. Despite this, forcing people to pay fines and go to court is more likely to lead to a more divisive society rather than a unifying one.
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    As a Muslim, I would never visit a place where they worship false idols. I can understand why the family don't want to enter a mosque and that's fine. People should not be forced to do so.
 
 
 
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