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Hi,

Does anyone know if doing an MPhil (provisional PhD place) in the 2017-18 session with the intention to upgrade to a PhD in 2018, preclude an application for the new government funded PhD loans (for English students) upon a successful upgrade?

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Hi,

Does anyone know if doing an MPhil (provisional PhD place) in the 2017-18 session with the intention to upgrade to a PhD in 2018, preclude an application for the new government funded PhD loans (for English students) upon a successful upgrade?

Thanks!
It's difficult to say - with the postgrad loans brought in this year they excluded anyone who started their course before Autumn 2016. It seems likely that they'll do the same for the PhD loans.
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But for the first year, at most institutions (including mine) the student is an MPhil student for the first year, and only a PhD student once the upgrade is successfully passed, usually at the end of the first year so a candidate starting a PhD in 2017 (being an MPhil student for the first year) will only actually become a PhD student in 2018 - when the loans are introduced..
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But for the first year, at most institutions (including mine) the student is an MPhil student for the first year, and only a PhD student once the upgrade is successfully passed, usually at the end of the first year so a candidate starting a PhD in 2017 (being an MPhil student for the first year) will only actually become a PhD student in 2018 - when the loans are introduced..
The funding councils and universities consider MPhil/PhD as a single course. MPhil is an early exit award from a PhD course not a pre-requisite for entry onto a PhD course.

If you start an MPhil then progress onto a PhD then your commencement date would be considered the date you started the MPhil not the date that you upgraded to a PhD. The only time this is likely to not be the case would be if you took an MPhil at one university and then transferred elsewhere directly onto a PhD programme.
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Cricky, I see. Thanks so much for clarifying what the loans mean in terms of MPhil-upgrade-PhD status. But then the proposed PhD loans at £25k are no where near enough to fully fund a 3 year PhD... yikes.
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