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    (Original post by mobbdeeprob)
    Personally, I wouldn't make a substantive comment without substantiating it, although I see what you are alluding to.

    Yes - in the UK, there would appear to be a degenerate, anti-edification culture, prevalent amongst an alarming number of black males. But then we have to dissect the term 'black'. Most people in this country are, quite often, referring to Jamaican-born blacks - as they are by far the predominant denomination of black Caribbean people(s).

    I firmly believe that black underachievement is very much a British affliction. Somewhere in the transition between traditional, Caribbean values (which promote education to the hilt) and the British education system - something is lost on several black males. Instead of academic stridence, several black males adopt an urban persona - with little interest in education, and a desire for instant gratification.

    However, I feel that large elements of British society have an expectation (from teachers to potential employers) that black males will conform to some of the degenerate traits named earlier - whereas this is not nearly as often the case for Asian (particularly Indian and Oriental) males.

    I feel that a lot of black males, especially British-born, are caught in a 'cultural No Man's Land' - trying desperately to forge a sense of identity, in a society which is overly hostile towards them. This, in my view, has spurred the evolution of a counter-culture - which pays little attention to social mores and, crucially, the views of the older generation. And all the while, this is taking place in a society which is overly hostile towards blacks and black achievement.

    In my view this accounts for the fact that Jamaicans currently contribute 35% of the British prison population.
    So you accept that the idealist concept of multi-racialist society is a failure?

    I feel it appropiate to point out the BNP have been aware of this problem for quite a while and have a policy concerning it:

    ....Thus the British National Party stance is to wholeheartedly agree with Lee Jasper, the Mayor of London's advisor on race relations, when he says that black parents should have the choice of sending their children to black-only schools where they can have decent black role models and escape from the gangster role models that they tend to adopt from the music industry. In passing we note that parental choice is a fundamental right which, of course, white families should have as well.
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    (Original post by Joey_Johns)
    Compliments to the quality of the sea food too.
    Brought in fresh from Oistins every morning.

    (Original post by Joey_Johns)
    Yah, Father Power SJ was raring to go after he heard the prices the young 'uns charge per night.
    Yes - apparently they also do a special offer for their priestly customers: gang rape 5 kids and you get a 21 year old hung like a donkey for free. I imagine that your priest would enjoy that.
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    (Original post by Biggles)
    Yes - apparently they also do a special offer for their priestly customers: gang rape 5 kids and you get a 21 year old hung like a donkey for free. I imagine that your priest would enjoy that.
    They also do family discounts.
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    (Original post by Lord Huntroyde)
    They also do family discounts.
    The words of experience?
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    (Original post by benm)
    So you accept that the idealist concept of multi-racialist society is a failure?

    I feel it appropiate to point out the BNP have been aware of this problem for quite a while and have a policy concerning it:

    ....Thus the British National Party stance is to wholeheartedly agree with Lee Jasper, the Mayor of London's advisor on race relations, when he says that black parents should have the choice of sending their children to black-only schools where they can have decent black role models and escape from the gangster role models that they tend to adopt from the music industry. In passing we note that parental choice is a fundamental right which, of course, white families should have as well.
    Yes, perhaps we could have our own model of District 6 too.

    Segregation isn't the answer.
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    (Original post by Jools)
    The words of experience?
    I know Catholic priests :cool:
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    (Original post by NDGAARONDI)
    But the HRA I thought wasn't guaranteed so to speak. Only Article 6, the right to a fair trial, is, supposedly. This is what I've read anyway.

    Sure you don't mean freedom of assembly?
    I mean feedom of association actually.
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    (Original post by benm)
    I feel it appropiate to point out the BNP have been aware of this problem for quite a while and have a policy concerning it:

    ....Thus the British National Party stance is to wholeheartedly agree with Lee Jasper, the Mayor of London's advisor on race relations, when he says that black parents should have the choice of sending their children to black-only schools where they can have decent black role models and escape from the gangster role models that they tend to adopt from the music industry. In passing we note that parental choice is a fundamental right which, of course, white families should have as well.
    Is the BNP no longer focussed on repatriation - sending minorities back to their "homelands"?

    (Original post by Lord Huntroyde)
    I know Catholic priests :cool:
    Don't we all? (scratches ass)

    I learn't how to make a woman gush within 3 minutes thanks to my local priest.

    (Original post by Jools)
    Is the BNP no longer focussed on repatriation - sending minorities back to their "homelands"?
    As I said before, the BNP is way too left-wing for me.
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    (Original post by Jools)
    Is the BNP no longer focussed on repatriation - sending minorities back to their "homelands"?
    Indeed. This harks back to Nick Griffin's praise of Louis Farrakhan (and seemingly any black figure that champions repatriation, advertently or inadvertently).
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    (Original post by Jools)
    Is the BNP no longer focussed on repatriation - sending minorities back to their "homelands"?
    The BNP has figured out that the forced discrimination and other harassment non-whites will suffer from will be more than adequate to make them 'voluntarily' leave.

    (Original post by Llamas)
    The BNP has figured out that the forced discrimination and other harassment non-whites will suffer from will be more than adequate to make them 'voluntarily' leave.
    The best way to deport black people without them knowing is by placing a trail of cocaine powder from their ghettos all the way to Heathrow and onto a plane.

    And if Al Queda decide to hijack the plane to kill Americans, well what can we do?
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    Ah yeah, I remember now. It seems a waste of time coming up with such policies, it's not as if it's ever going to happen. The best BNP can possibly achieve is a few more councillors and maybe an MP / MEP, meaning "representation" but no policy implementation.
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    (Original post by Jools)
    Ah yeah, I remember now. It seems a waste of time coming up with such policies, it's not as if it's ever going to happen. The best BNP can possibly achieve is a few more councillors and maybe an MP / MEP, meaning "representation" but no policy implementation.
    Or better still, a neo-Great Depression.

    (Original post by Jools)
    Ah yeah, I remember now. It seems a waste of time coming up with such policies, it's not as if it's ever going to happen. The best BNP can possibly achieve is a few more councillors and maybe an MP / MEP, meaning "representation" but no policy implementation.
    You forget the lesson of Weimar – the more loonier and liberal a Government gets and the more suppressed the Daily Reich Mail readers get, the more support the looney extremists get. Looney Liberals beget looney Nazis.

    10% of our population are now from mumbo jumbo lands. More people are coming into this country each year than are being born in it. Within a few decades 30% of the population will be Bongo Bongoese. At that point the native population will have had enough, their instinct to preserve themselves will kick in, the Tories wont accommodate their needs, and so they will turn to our BNP friends.
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    (Original post by mobbdeeprob)
    Yes, perhaps we could have our own model of District 6 too.

    Segregation isn't the answer.
    I suppose further idealism is?
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    Well if you look at communities such as Leicester where the ethnic minority is about to become an ethnic majority, you still see little BNP support. I don't think the stat of more immigrants than newborns will continue; eventually border control will be heavily tightened, with those who will contribute to society welcomed and those desiring a life of benefits filtered out. So the vast majority of whites will not have a problem with a sizeable ethnic minority whom are at large a credit to the nation.

    Well, let's see who's right in 2050, eh?! This thread will probably still be on Google then...
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    (Original post by Biggles)
    You forget the lesson of Weimar – the more loonier and liberal a Government gets and the more suppressed the Daily Reich Mail readers get, the more support the looney extremists get. Looney Liberals beget looney Nazis.

    10% of our population are now from mumbo jumbo lands. More people are coming into this country each year than are being born in it. Within a few decades 30% of the population will be Bongo Bongoese. At that point the native population will have had enough, their instinct to preserve themselves will kick in, the Tories wont accommodate their needs, and so they will turn to our BNP friends.

    Is UK politics really as fragile as you have made out though (or alternatively, could it become this fragile?) - isn't Political Correctness a 'longstop', which will prevent the likes of the BNP gaining serious power?

    On a slightly unrelated but nonetheless interesting point - Oswald Mosley was a Tory and then a Labour MP before tailing off to form the New Party (later the BUF). Politics is about pragmatism, not idealism - so I suppose the BNP could come to power - if the situation demanded it.
 
 
 
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