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MG - head gasket blown - common problem?

Hi

Had an MG ZR for nearly 4 years (bought new). Was just coming off the M1 yesterday when I heard some very loud clicking noises coming from under the bonnet and then my speedo just seemed to fall away and the car would not go above 40mph, it then promptly died on me at the bottom of the slip road coming off the motorway. Literally just died.

Fortunately someone helped push it out of the way of traffic etc and had to wait for recovery. Guy said it looked like head gasket had blown and said something else about engine. Oil and everything was ok - although he said there was no water whatsoever (I had only just topped everything up a week earlier).

Anyway I spoke to a local garage who have a pretty good reputation and they said going on what Id said, it did sound like head gasket and said Id be looking at about £400 min as they would have to strip engine down and it wouldnt be until then that he'd know if the engine had been damaged further etc.

Is that about right price wise? Im always wary going to garages as a woman as I think Im going to get ripped-off.

Both guys said that they have really crappy engines that basically should have been recalled years ago theyre that rubbish.

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Reply 1
well lets just say my price was £350 fit a total engine fit(60,000 miles) when my engine blew up
Reply 2
Incredibly common fault due to a poor design of gasket. Happened to a mate and cost £900, so £400 seems like a reasonable quote.
Reply 3
Head gaskets are expeeeensive. Not actually having a car I don't know exactly how much it should be, but my dad never shuts up about his (he had this problem too) so that sounds about right. Get a second opinion just to make sure it's not anything else (=cheaper). And in future keep an eye on the water level ALL the time and it won't happen again!
Reply 4
JudeX
Hi

Had an MG ZR for nearly 4 years (bought new). Was just coming off the M1 yesterday when I heard some very loud clicking noises coming from under the bonnet and then my speedo just seemed to fall away and the car would not go above 40mph, it then promptly died on me at the bottom of the slip road coming off the motorway. Literally just died.

Fortunately someone helped push it out of the way of traffic etc and had to wait for recovery. Guy said it looked like head gasket had blown and said something else about engine. Oil and everything was ok - although he said there was no water whatsoever (I had only just topped everything up a week earlier).

Anyway I spoke to a local garage who have a pretty good reputation and they said going on what Id said, it did sound like head gasket and said Id be looking at about £400 min as they would have to strip engine down and it wouldnt be until then that he'd know if the engine had been damaged further etc.

Is that about right price wise? Im always wary going to garages as a woman as I think Im going to get ripped-off.

Both guys said that they have really crappy engines that basically should have been recalled years ago theyre that rubbish.

sounds like an alright price for a head gasket - just be wary they go much above that being it's a 'minimum'.. try and get them to find out exactly whats wrong and then like others said, get a second opinion.. Could have done a bit of damage if it was driven for a while after the gasket went.. as above if you get it repaired, make sure you check the coolant and temperature as much as poss!
I wouldn't know about the price but for the fact that I know it's expensive, but yes, common with the MGs I heard
Reply 6
The K series is a good engine, but is has one problem, HGF. So to answer your question, yes, head gasket issues are common mate, not as bad as is made out though, and generally speaking, if you don't cane it from cold you should be ok for a good mileage.

Did the temp needle go up atall?

Weird for the car to suddenly stop working with no indication first.
Reply 7
as above common thing on the k series and yea £400 is what my mate paid on his to get it fixed.
Reply 8
No temp needle didnt really go up.

It has about 11.5k on clock.

There wasnt really any warning signals other than earlier that week I had noticed a faint clicking noise, my companion in the car said he couldnt hear anything and it didnt happen again so I didnt worry too much about it to be honest.
Reply 9
When they replace it, ask them to fit the modified gaskets made by Land Rover, which solves the problem. Don't let them replace like for like, or else you'll probably have the same problem in another 11.5k miles time!
Reply 10
Thanks for that - I will check that with them. Youre right, I mean theres a risk it could go again I guess.

Would a different gasket make a huge difference to the price?
Reply 11
Shouldn't do - it's the labour involved that costs the money. The parts themselves are dead cheap, it's just a fiddly job to fit them.
Reply 12
Insist that the latest freelander HG are installed and it will not blow again.
All K series seem to need to blow once and beyond that most are reliable.
Reply 13
the clicking sound tells me the engine is just about screwed and youd be lucky if it aint. that sound was most likely the valves bending and the timing belt slipping on the cogs.

sometimes the temp gauge wont go up cause theres no water to read to get a measurement from.

if i were you id just get the whole engine replaced and the uprated HG fitted.
my head gasket went on my fiat punto and was unrepairable and had to be scrapped
Reply 15
Dac_10
the clicking sound tells me the engine is just about screwed and youd be lucky if it aint. that sound was most likely the valves bending and the timing belt slipping on the cogs.

sometimes the temp gauge wont go up cause theres no water to read to get a measurement from.

if i were you id just get the whole engine replaced and the uprated HG fitted.



Thats what Im worried about! Well, not much I can do about it now I guess.
Leesimon2000
my head gasket went on my fiat punto and was unrepairable and had to be scrapped



Yeah, because it would've ran without cooling aid.

You can usually spot it easily before it starts killing stuff, by looking for mayo on dipstick.

It's a popular problem, I've heard of on loads of 16V cars, and FIRE engines.


If head don't need skimming, you could get it done cheaper than £400, use that.


The gasket kit is only like £30. Get a Haynes, get some tools and have a bash yoursel (Although you say you ran the car till it died, so it's probaly cooked something).
Reply 17
The head should ALWAYS be skimmed if you are replacing the HG.

I would not recommend trying to replace the HG if you don't have much experience with cars, or don't have someone next to you who does. Seriously, so much can go wrong when you take the head of an engine.
If all else fails.

Engine conversions are straight orward on K series.


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gbduo
The head should ALWAYS be skimmed if you are replacing the HG.

I would not recommend trying to replace the HG if you don't have much experience with cars, or don't have someone next to you who does. Seriously, so much can go wrong when you take the head of an engine.


Not nessacailiy, as in the early stages of HGF, plenty of people on the OC have changed it without touching head.