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#62
(Original post by shiny)
Oh well, academia ain't for you then
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Oh well, academia ain't for you then
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#63
There are always jobs like mine -
same environment as academia
not even slightly competetive (the sector - administration puts 95% of the blokes off already)
the pay is reasonable (I started on £17.5k 2 and a bit yrs ago - in a few months time it's due to go up to nearly £23k)
it's a job for life (I have a letter on my desk saying the job is mine until I'm 65
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and the holidays etc are great (same terms and conditions as academics - works out at around 45 days leave a yr including bank holidays)
plus the work is quite interesting
same environment as academia
not even slightly competetive (the sector - administration puts 95% of the blokes off already)
the pay is reasonable (I started on £17.5k 2 and a bit yrs ago - in a few months time it's due to go up to nearly £23k)
it's a job for life (I have a letter on my desk saying the job is mine until I'm 65
) and the holidays etc are great (same terms and conditions as academics - works out at around 45 days leave a yr including bank holidays)
plus the work is quite interesting
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#64
(Original post by Jools)
Hang on, a lot of academics make an absolute fortune. Ignore the 30k lecturing salaries, its having their books published where they make the real money.
Hang on, a lot of academics make an absolute fortune. Ignore the 30k lecturing salaries, its having their books published where they make the real money.
And publishing books isn't guaranteed income.
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#65
(Original post by Jools)
Hang on, a lot of academics make an absolute fortune. Ignore the 30k lecturing salaries, its having their books published where they make the real money.
Hang on, a lot of academics make an absolute fortune. Ignore the 30k lecturing salaries, its having their books published where they make the real money.
Having said that, academia has paid for the life that I enjoy and it's quite good.
The starting salaries in academia are generally crap. Several institutions, initially, will only offer lecturers rolling contracts; so job security isn't great.
Once you reach the rank of Senior Lecturer - the opportunities for paid travel to attend conferences and seminars are immense though and job security is pretty much assured.
£40,000 for Senior Lecturers is tolerable.
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#66
Top Academics do alright for themselves but it's the first ten years really, considering how clever they clearly are, the salaries do not match.
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#67
(Original post by shiny)
There are lots of chaps who just plod out a living.
There are lots of chaps who just plod out a living.
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#68
(Original post by shiny)
Not every academic is a superstar like the ones at Oxford Jools. There are lots of chaps who just plod out a living.
And publishing books isn't guaranteed income.
Not every academic is a superstar like the ones at Oxford Jools. There are lots of chaps who just plod out a living.
And publishing books isn't guaranteed income.
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#69
(Original post by Jools)
It's not an Ox thing - some of the respected academic sources are written by Professors at eg Glasgow Caledonian, East London, Hallam etc. Yeah it's nothing guaranteed; I was just directing it at Huntroyde who seems to have the capability.
It's not an Ox thing - some of the respected academic sources are written by Professors at eg Glasgow Caledonian, East London, Hallam etc. Yeah it's nothing guaranteed; I was just directing it at Huntroyde who seems to have the capability.
But I couldn't make my parents fund the early years, taking my inheritence before they're dead
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#71
(Original post by Pencil Queen)
I always wanted to work in a sweetshop
I always wanted to work in a sweetshop
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#72
(Original post by jumpunderaboat)
At first I thought you put sweatshop...
At first I thought you put sweatshop...
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#73
(Original post by Pencil Queen)
I always wanted to work in a sweetshop
I always wanted to work in a sweetshop
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#74
(Original post by shiny)
Ooohhh, I would be your first customer!
Ooohhh, I would be your first customer!
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#75
(Original post by Jools)
Academia won't be that difficult to get into. How many people your age want to go into academia?
Academia won't be that difficult to get into. How many people your age want to go into academia?
That puts 99.9999% of the population out of the question.
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#76
(Original post by BazTheMoney)
Not difficult at all, you just need a First or 2i followed by a PhD.
That puts 99.9999% of the population out of the question.
Not difficult at all, you just need a First or 2i followed by a PhD.
That puts 99.9999% of the population out of the question.
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#77
(Original post by BazTheMoney)
Not difficult at all, you just need a First or 2i followed by a PhD That puts 99.9999% of the population out of the question.
Not difficult at all, you just need a First or 2i followed by a PhD
That puts 99.9999% of the population out of the question.
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#78
(Original post by BazTheMoney)
Not difficult at all, you just need a First or 2i followed by a PhD. That puts 99.9999% of the population out of the question.
Not difficult at all, you just need a First or 2i followed by a PhD.
That puts 99.9999% of the population out of the question.
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#79
(Original post by shiny)
Neither is Investment Banking in that case
Neither is Investment Banking in that case
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#80
(Original post by Jools)
Erm, no. If you have a 2.1, good work experience and good extracurriculars you still have ~60 (and rising) people per place competing against you.
Erm, no. If you have a 2.1, good work experience and good extracurriculars you still have ~60 (and rising) people per place competing against you.
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