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We do medicine to make money, not help people. [TRUTH REVEALED}

Anyone declaring themselves as a living charity dedicated to "helping people" is a f***ing compulsive liar trying to up their social status. I don't do that kind of stuff. Even the people very good at interviews who come across as 100% genuine told me they do it for the money.

Don't tell me there is no money in medicine. Don't cite the junior doctors contracts. If you genuinely believe there is no money in medicine follow these links:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36028368

http://www.newhealthadvisor.com/highest-paid-medical-specialties.html

The fact is, we all want good return on our investments. My investment is all the hours put into studies. Return is hard cash.

We just need to make ourselves look like human charities. My friends are better at that then I am. All I want to know is how I can get better at that, that's all I want to know from you guys.

People in this forum may vilify me for saying this, but deep down you all know its the truth. You want hard cash. You want a better house. You want new car. Don't worry, its human nature to do so.

BTW, already tried freelancing jobs on the web, pay is s***. Way to much competition for those due to the lack of qualification requirements. Everyone undercutting for the same job. See, I've done my research.

Finance, engineering, compsci all have fluctuating demands. There will always be sick people, medicine will always yield jobs.

Edit: I don't know why some people are acting so surprised, let me explain it in basic business terms:

Healthcare = service

Cash = return for service

and Healthcare is also a basic human necessity, demand will never cease

So it's not rocket science to think that medicine is very reliable cash generator.

Also keep in mind we work very hard for 6 entire years and most of us work incredibly hard during school as well. If we weren't doing it for the money, the effort:reward ratio would simply not be sufficient to make medicine the single most competitive subject in the UK.
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Reply 1
No sh*t Sherlock.
Reply 2
Original post by ATW1
No sh*t Sherlock.


Glad to see there is agreement among the general public
Reply 3
Ye it's why the concept of "trusting your doctor" is an insane concept. Doctors make the most money the more sick people they have to treat - if people were healthy non-emergency doctors would be unemployed. Hence why doctors give you DRUGS that TREAT you rather than natural SOLUTIONS that CURE you.
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Original post by xxxlolzxxx
Anyone declaring themselves as a living charity dedicated to "helping people" is a f***ing compulsive liar trying to up their social status. I don't do that kind of stuff. Even the people very good at interviews who come across as 100% genuine told me they do it for the money.

Don't tell me there is no money in medicine. Don't cite the junior doctors contracts. If you genuinely believe there is no money in medicine follow these links:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36028368

http://www.newhealthadvisor.com/highest-paid-medical-specialties.html

The fact is, we all want good return on our investments. My investment is all the hours put into studies. Return is hard cash.

We just need to make ourselves look like human charities. My friends are better at that then I am. All I want to know is how I can get better at that, that's all I want to know from you guys.

People in this forum may vilify me for saying this, but deep down you all know its the truth. You want hard cash. You want a better house. You want new car. Don't worry, its human nature to do so.

BTW, already tried freelancing jobs on the web, pay is s***. Way to much competition for those due to the lack of qualification requirements. Everyone undercutting for the same job. See, I've done my research.

Finance, engineering, compsci all have fluctuating demands. There will always be sick people, medicine will always yield jobs.


Why cant you do both? Not everyone is like you. If you come across in interviews like you post, then it will be a challenge. I thought you were the one who said your only experience of life was through 4chan and playingxbox?
Reply 5
Original post by 41b
Ye it's why the concept of "trusting your doctor" is an insane concept. Doctors make the most money the more sick people they have to treat - if people were healthy non-emergency doctors would be unemployed. Hence why doctors give you DRUGS that TREAT you rather than natural SOLUTIONS that CURE you.


Well you can't exactly do **** that gets you a jail term...

Anyway, doctors will never be unemployed. Plenty of people with chronic conditions like diabetes, heart disease, cancer etc. So it's still in the doctors best interests to treat people. You know, consumer satisfaction?
Original post by xxxlolzxxx
Anyone declaring themselves as a living charity dedicated to "helping people" is a f***ing compulsive liar trying to up their social status. I don't do that kind of stuff. Even the people very good at interviews who come across as 100% genuine told me they do it for the money.

Don't tell me there is no money in medicine. Don't cite the junior doctors contracts. If you genuinely believe there is no money in medicine follow these links:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36028368

http://www.newhealthadvisor.com/highest-paid-medical-specialties.html

The fact is, we all want good return on our investments. My investment is all the hours put into studies. Return is hard cash.

We just need to make ourselves look like human charities. My friends are better at that then I am. All I want to know is how I can get better at that, that's all I want to know from you guys.

People in this forum may vilify me for saying this, but deep down you all know its the truth. You want hard cash. You want a better house. You want new car. Don't worry, its human nature to do so.

BTW, already tried freelancing jobs on the web, pay is s***. Way to much competition for those due to the lack of qualification requirements. Everyone undercutting for the same job. See, I've done my research.

Finance, engineering, compsci all have fluctuating demands. There will always be sick people, medicine will always yield jobs.


First of all as a medical applicant, money is the last thing I think about when deciding I want to dedicate my life to this field. Secondly the latter link you posted are stats from the U.S which doesn't represent what UK doctors earn, they're really not comparable. Thirdly you made a thread a few hours ago how you didn't do too well your medicine interviews? Maybe it's because the interviewers saw your true motivation? You won't be able to hack a career in medicine if money is the only thing which motivates you and the caring nature of the job isn't the main attraction.
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Reply 7
Original post by Ninjakam119
First of all as a medical applicant money is the last thing I think about when deciding I want to dedicate my life to this field. Secondly the latter link you posted are stats from the U.S which doesn't represent what UK doctors earn, they're really not comparable. Thirdly you made a thread a few hours ago how you didn't do too well your medicine interviews? Maybe it's because the interviewer's saw your true motivation? You won't be able to hack a career in medicine if money is the only thing which motivates you and the caring nature of the job isn't the main attraction.


At least its a reliable career path

I post on 4chan BTW, caring is not my thing
Original post by 41b
Ye it's why the concept of "trusting your doctor" is an insane concept. Doctors make the most money the more sick people they have to treat - if people were healthy non-emergency doctors would be unemployed. Hence why doctors give you DRUGS that TREAT you rather than natural SOLUTIONS that CURE you.

Correct logic, wrong profession. Doctors do care about lives, it's pharmacists which come up with drugs to treat you. A pharmacist once told me, there's no money in finding a cure because they use it once and they don't need you anymore, the money is in treatment.
Except if you genuinely want to make money and joined medicine, you'd quickly find yourself disappointed.

Yes you make money... eventually. But it is not quick and it is definitely not easy. There is a degree of selflessness involved in joining medicine because the money earned is simply not justifiable for the amount of work done.
Don't worry guys, OP is projecting and taking out his anger on people, because his lack of social/ emotional intelligence means medical school is nothing more than a mere fantasy.
Original post by xxxlolzxxx
I post on 4chan BTW, caring is not my thing



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Question is… if you're so full of this philosophical truth, why didn't you foresee me asking why you decided to put this thread in Chat?

It doesn't belong here. :sadnod:
Lol "we", when you're still an applicant...stop acting as if you speak for anyone apart from yourself, you boring edgelord.
Original post by xxxlolzxxx
At least its a reliable career path

I post on 4chan BTW, caring is not my thing


I've seen your stats, you seem like a clever person, don't do medicine, there's a reason why in the UK they require you to do work experience, to talk to doctors, to go through vigorous interviews... To make sure you know medicine is for you
I don't want to sound rude, but you've got to take a hint, you didn't smash your interviews and you've admitted to yourself caring is not your thing. Sure the money is good once you're a specialist/GP but the promise of money alone will not help you through the tough hours as a junior doctor, the amount of knowledge, stress and exams you have to undertake in medical school.
Original post by Eva.Gregoria
Except if you genuinely want to make money and joined medicine, you'd quickly find yourself disappointed.

Yes you make money... eventually. But it is not quick and it is definitely not easy. There is a degree of selflessness involved in joining medicine because the money earned is simply not justifiable for the amount of work done.


Completely right- there is an element of actually wanting to work with and help people. It takes many years before you can get a consultant salary. And if we are talking about A&E or overstretched GPs, the hours and pressure are not commensurate for the pay. Why would you go through that hassle when you could do something else with fewer hours and less stress job for more money?
Btw if money is your thing thats fine. No reason why you cant like money, but also be good at your job. the bit I'm not getting is that you fail to comprehend why and how the interview represents a hurdle as well as what they are looking for. If you are as smart as you say, then you would make that connection and swan through your interview. Perhaps less 4chan and more work experience.
Original post by 999tigger
Btw if money is your thing thats fine. No reason why you cant like money, but also be good at your job. the bit I'm not getting is that you fail to comprehend why and how the interview represents a hurdle as well as what they are looking for. If you are as smart as you say, then you would make that connection and swan through your interview. Perhaps less 4chan and more work experience.



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This post screams to me "BOOHOO I DIDN'T GET INTO MEDICINE AND NOW I HAVE TO THROW A TANTRUM".

Moreover, how can you cite a site from the United States and think it is applicable to the existing health model in the UK? The US doesn't have a public health system per se (although Medicare and Medicaid can be described as the closest thing to having public healthcare, but its scope is far more limited than that of the NHS for instance) and as a result, hospitals are largely self-funded businesses and operate as such.
Apparently from the other thread he has 4 interview to go to, so he has a chance. Its on the other thread. He was asking for advice on how to get through interview. This thread made me sceptical or put the other one into perspective.