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UK passes "most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy"

http://www.zdnet.com/article/snoopers-charter-expansive-new-spying-powers-becomes-law/

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Why do I have to rely on some person I follow on Twitter to find this out?

If fascism or some equivalent forces ever get hold a modern rich state we are all going to be so totally ****ed.
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Original post by ChaoticButterfly
http://www.zdnet.com/article/snoopers-charter-expansive-new-spying-powers-becomes-law/

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Why do I have to rely on some person I follow on Twitter to find this out?

Because it's fake
Original post by That'sGreat
Because it's fake


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It's not fake. The Investigatory Powers Bill is to become law.

All data, including voice communication over Skype, Discord, etc to be stored for a minimum of a year.

It's ridiculous - the amount of people you'll catch versus the level of intrusion is not high enough to justify this.
The fact cuba has an underground illegal internet does kind of give me hope though. Communication method of the future resistance.
Don't know why some people want to learn what porn sites I've been on so badly.
Original post by Gatewaymerge
Don't know why some people want to learn what porn sites I've been on so badly.


Why isn't the question. The question is what safeguards will be put on this to prevent government members carrying out their own little blackmail operations.
stored where? stored by the private companies (i.e. skype, facebook, etc)? or the state itself?
if it's the private companies, and the state can only ever access the information in extremely restricted and checked circumstances, then I don't mind so much (I still don't like it as a violation of liberty) - if it is subject to scrutiny, even better. but the chances are, I'm being far too optimistic.
How can this possible work, if all skype convos are recorded won't it slow down the service?
Original post by l'etranger
How can this possible work, if all skype convos are recorded won't it slow down the service?


Just write it to servers as it's produced, open another thread and let the servers on the other end take up the load.
Well I hope the government has fun listening to me play Rocket League with my friends.

Who knows, I might be a terrorist.
The fact is, this is a huge overreach of state powers and it's completely unnecessary.

It also makes finding terrorists or criminals a lot more difficult. If you're looking for a needle in a haystack, why would you add more hay?

What's even more shocking though is that Labour did nothing to oppose this measure - so you have both major parties supporting the violation of privacy.

#LibDemFightback :wink: Okay, that might be my bias kicking in :tongue: But the point stands
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How can we be sure they are already not monitoring our internet history- I would not put it past them.
Original post by United Britain
How can we be sure they are already not monitoring our internet history- I would not put it past them.


They are / were. All this law does is legalise all the currently illegal techniques that gchq and others have been using for years. Dont be suprised when in 5 years time they are still over stepping these insanely slack guidelines.

That said, I made a thread about this what, 3 or 4 weeks ago, barely any responses and consensus is that no one in Britain cares.
Original post by mojojojo101
They are / were. All this law does is legalise all the currently illegal techniques that gchq and others have been using for years. Dont be suprised when in 5 years time they are still over stepping these insanely slack guidelines.

That said, I made a thread about this what, 3 or 4 weeks ago, barely any responses and consensus is that no one in Britain cares.


Obviously , it is the role of GCHQ to keep us safe and if that means using illegal techniques then so be it, it will only show up people who have something to hide, also we may catch more prospective terror suspects aswell.
A shame we don't have guns to defend ourselves from excessive government.
Original post by PetrosAC
The fact is, this is a huge overreach of state powers and it's completely unnecessary.

It also makes finding terrorists or criminals a lot more difficult. If you're looking for a needle in a haystack, why would you add more hay?

What's even more shocking though is that Labour did nothing to oppose this measure - so you have both major parties supporting the violation of privacy.

#LibDemFightback :wink: Okay, that might be my bias kicking in :tongue: But the point stands


Completely right. The government aren't being held to account by a weak opposition and the point about adding more hay pretty much sums it up.

At its heart it's a draconian measure (whether intended to be or not) that is a violation of civil liberties. Then there're the costs of garnering and storing the data which'll come at a cost. Mad.
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Lmao our privacy was always a joke
hello big brother so happy you can legally now keep my youtube history and skype conversations about cats - have fun listening you sad pr*cks
As I've said before - if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to be worried about.
Original post by #ChaosKass
As I've said before - if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to be worried about.


In that case would you be so kind as to upload all your text messages, phone calls, letters, medical records, any legal documents, your internet history, voting record, etc, etc so we can all have a good look through them.

I mean, if you have nothing to hide...

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