Nonsense. This is the ideal, however, it is simply a myth put forward by the government. The difference in quality between the work,teaching and honesty of our univerisities is immense - there are certain universities which provide you with a degree which, to quote a computing student of Glasgow Caledonian on his own qualification, are as useful as "going into an interview with your **** hanging out."(Original post by BlondeFunkyChic)
I am not interested in snobbery, it doesn't matter where you do your degree...it's no different if you sat it at Oxford or Liverpool John Moores, a 2:1 is a 2:1.
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- 14-08-2004 12:43
(Original post by Fluffy)
Unfortunately this statement is not true. A 2i is not a 2i everywhere (so to speak!). it's about time UK universities standardised degree classifications... -
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- 14-08-2004 12:45
The Engineering Council sorta does this
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- 14-08-2004 13:04
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The Engineering Council sorta does this -
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- 14-08-2004 13:11
One of the reasons why engineering employers aren't quite so interested in what university you've been to but rather whether you have done an Engineering Council accredited degree or not.
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- 14-08-2004 13:19
(Original post by mathsgeek)
no way is a 2.1 same everywhere. some courses are harder then others so why would a 2.1 be seen equal no matter where u did it. its just not right. there are people who worked really hard at top unis and got 2.2s and people who didnt work that hard at lower unis and came out with 1sts. i would take someone with a 2.2 from a top uni then a 2.1 or even 1st from a lower uni in the same subject!! -
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- 14-08-2004 13:25
(Original post by BlondeFunkyChic)
So I guess there is no point in me going to university then? My degree is then going to be crap...jeez...thanks! -
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- 14-08-2004 13:29
(Original post by an Siarach)
Nonsense. This is the ideal, however, it is simply a myth put forward by the government. The difference in quality between the work,teaching and honesty of our univerisities is immense - there are certain universities which provide you with a degree which, to quote a computing student of Glasgow Caledonian on his own qualification, are as useful as "going into an interview with your **** hanging out."
Maybe I shouldn't go University then this year, maybe I should wait till next year. I am worried about my results, now I am upset I have chosen a university that offers what 'you' say 'easy' degrees?? (Its like saying private 6th forms has harder A Levels than college 6th forms). Even though they want BB and wanted two articles off me before I got onto the course, *sigh*...I don't know what to believe. I don't know why people have to put others down, yes very well there are such things as 'open universities' with their access courses, but I am doing a BA Hons...and this is a degree and people work hard for a degree in my eyes.
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- 14-08-2004 13:31
(Original post by shiny)
Unfortunately without a standardisation system, preconceptions (right or wrong) about the "value" of your degree maybe quite important
I don't understand though, if City University is not exactly a 'great' university why does it state this on their site?:
City’s success is demonstrated by its graduate employment record, which is one of the best in the country. We are also the sixth most popular university in the UK for student applications. Our reputation extends worldwide: of almost 10,000 City students, more than 40 per cent are international, the majority of these from outside the European Union. -
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- 14-08-2004 14:01
(Original post by BlondeFunkyChic)
So City University in London is really a crap university? What about Middlesex? I was told the course I applied for at City University is competitive to get into and also runs the best journalist course in the country, however, I am doing Psychology and Journalism.
Maybe I shouldn't go University then this year, maybe I should wait till next year. I am worried about my results, now I am upset I have chosen a university that offers what 'you' say 'easy' degrees?? (Its like saying private 6th forms has harder A Levels than college 6th forms). Even though they want BB and wanted two articles off me before I got onto the course, *sigh*...I don't know what to believe. I don't know why people have to put others down, yes very well there are such things as 'open universities' with their access courses, but I am doing a BA Hons...and this is a degree and people work hard for a degree in my eyes.
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- 14-08-2004 14:09
(Original post by an Siarach)
Im not saying the degrees are totally without worth, im just saying that there are varying qualities depending on the awarding university. Its not the same as with A-Levels as they are graded by the same exam boards for the nation. If individual schools marked the A-Levels for their pupils then an A at one school would not always be worth as much as an A at another. -
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- 14-08-2004 15:05
(Original post by BlondeFunkyChic)
Right, I understand now. But City is the 6th best university in the country...it says on their website. -
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- 14-08-2004 15:08
(Original post by BlondeFunkyChic)
Right, I understand now. But City is the 6th best university in the country...it says on their website. -
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- 14-08-2004 15:10
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,716,00.html
Never rely on a university for the facts on their position. As the times tables show, City is rated 55th - not bad at all, but certainly not 6th. -
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- 14-08-2004 15:21
(Original post by an Siarach)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,716,00.html
Never rely on a university for the facts on their position. As the times tables show, City is rated 55th - not bad at all, but certainly not 6th.
They be should reported for such a lie then on their website. However, I am not bothered...you are always going to get a university that is better than the one you end up at. I doubt everyone on these boards are going to Oxbridge. -
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- 14-08-2004 15:27
(Original post by BlondeFunkyChic)
They should reported for such a lie then on their website. However, I am not bothered...you are always going to get a university that is better than the one you end up at. I doubt everyone on these boards are going to Oxbridge. -
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- 14-08-2004 15:31
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I doubt its an outright lie though some universities have been known to use such. Most likely City will be ranked top 6 for a certain subject, and ambiguous wording gives the impression theyre top 6 overall. -
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- 14-08-2004 15:32
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it probably is for a particular subject but twisted the words somewhat. -
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- 14-08-2004 15:38
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But if you are studying that particular subject which they are 6th for isn't that better than going for overall rank? -
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