Feminist Guardian Journalist - Women who rape young boys shouldn't go to prison

Given that rape is defined as illegal penetration with a penis, can you please explain how girls manage it?

Don't assume all offenders' gender! Having a penis doesn't make you a boy! What if the offender is only a boy on weekdays but rapes someone on a weekend?


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I am a Guardian reader and support most forms of feminism but that article is full of logical fallacies. Either you support that males and females are inherently different, thus endorsing gender roles or you don't. But don't pick and choose when you want the genders to be different and when you don't want them to be.

The boys that I went to school with would probably have bragged if one of them got to sleep with an attractive teacher, that's true. But the girls would also go nuts about an attractive male teacher and had those same fantasies. Bottom line is that they are children, and an adult who takes advantage of their position to pursue a relationship with one of them deserves to be punished. It's a bit insulting to suggest that a woman couldn't control her actions because she was going through a rough time with her "failing marriage".

The article is 7 years old some changes have happened since then. Particularly in the US to include in the definition of rape a description which allows any gender to rape any gender.

It's misleading to say that the law changed to exclude female rapists in the U.K. Women have never been legally classed as rapists. When the definition changed to be the rape of any person that was to acknowledge that any gender could be raped..but the rapist is still any gender with a penis.

I've argued with CPS that women should be classed as rapists within the law. Apparently this change is not needed because there are sufficient crimes covering the act of forced penetration. But laws should reflect a need in society too and society needs to acknowledge women can rape.

I'm in no way minimising this article at all. It's disgusting. But I think it's disingenuous to ignore the similar vein which happens with teen girls. Both genders are oversexualised. Whilst girls don't have to face the almost blanket refusal that abuse could exist, the idea of it being a fantasy and the girl a Lolita is very pervasive. As long as both genders are near age of consent. The divide for believing a boy/girl are responsible and should feel lucky changes rapidly as they decrease in age. Until they reach under 13. So a 13/14 yo old boy should still feel lucky despite boys, on average experience puberty much later than girls. But 13/14yo girl is seen as more vulnerable and more likely to have been abused.

It's hard to even begin to understand the mentality of the masses with this.

It's also an oversimplification to say it is "feminists". That is not a feminist that is a woman who plays into the patriarchy. It wasn't feminists trying to shoot me down when I said (elsewhere) that a 14 yo boy was abused by female teacher. It wasn't feminists suggesting that if I had more sex I would think differently (nope my sex life has nothing to do with recognising abuse) and it wasn't feminists who sent me really offensive porn and threatened to reveal my personal info online for suggesting that a child wasn't lucky to be abused.

Apologies that was me confusing your identity with another poster.

I haven't stereotyped men at all. I simply stated that the majority of the time the crudest and worst responses were from men. That's not a stereotype at all. A stereotype would be to generalise that hate to all men, but I didn't. As for the rest of what I said in that quote, it's all fact. Men can stop themselves from having sex, they aren't animals without a brain or free will. And they aren't aroused all day every day. Thinking about sex, finding someone attractive etc is different to being up, rest and willing for sex.

Which would mean a woman could be charged with rape.

Myself and others have already discussed the need to include forcible penetration but also that these offences aren't ignored. It is still sexual assault.

They would still be a sex offender. I've already stated that I've tried to argue this point with the CPS

You don't need to argue with me.

we can choose to stop moaning about who hasn't helped a discriminated group and actually do something productive to help that group. Do you do anything to help change the situation?

No. A glimpse into the mind of a moron.

She doesn't think that way because she's a feminist, she thinks that way because she's an idiot.

She just happens to also identify as a feminist.

Statutory rape. Google it.

How about you educate yourself before trying to act all smart on the internet.

There is no such crime as statutory rape in the UK. Google it.

Anyway, what is called statutory rape elsewhere is all about sex with those below the age of consent. You seem to be confusing rape with sexual assault.

You'll realise people talk about laws they don't understand quite often

Why has this been posted?

Have you not noticed the article was written in 2009. 8 years ago. No comments have been added in 8 years...

Just because someone wrote an article 8 years back does not mean the article is corrent in its views..But this isnt exactly breaking news is it? I can probably find all kinds of articles written in history that i dont agree with

Does anyone actually bother to click and check stories anymore?

Prob 10% of the people who posted comments are dead, who knows what the author of the piece is doing.
There was no context offeered as to what has happened to the author in the following 8 years. Or anyoe else involved in the case.

I asked why this has been posted..you respond with 'you are entitled to your opinion'. With respect, that doesnt really make sense.

The internet is awash with sites dealing with "older woman teacher-pupil" fantasies.

This writer at The Guardian has written hundreds and hundreds of articles. Personally, i would not feel its helping TSR users, if i then made a seperate thread for every article she has written in her life. How far shall we go back...start posting her articles from the 90's and claim im suddenly offened and ask for everyone o comment?

Get a grip, im jus saying i think its relevent to add that this is an extremely old article

That is not all I wrote, right Tenth? You forgot the following:

"Personally, I think that this article and the issues pertaining to it, discussed in this thread, are relevant and important."

You might want to acquaint yourself with the issues discussed in this thread. Particularly, those pertaining to our sexist rape laws.Those same laws brought about by feminist activism and views similar to those of this journalist, not only here in the UK but in other countries like the USA and 'Israel'. This feminist's diabolical views are still very much alive today across the globe. This woman's sexist views towards men and boys are prevalent in our culture and reflected in our sexist laws.

These issues need to be highlighted and accentuated. You might think that sexism against men and sympathy for female pedophiles is unimportant but i disagree greatly, especially when its conveyed through such a prominent platform such as The Guardian and especially when the person in question was never questioned in any meaningful way about this article, not by the state, not by their employer and not by the public and remains in their post to this day. I think that this speaks volumes. There is a serious problem in our culture where sexism and abuse against men and boys by women is viewed as being acceptable. This sexist culture needs to change.

I hope that this has put things into context for you.

This bit of the article entertained me:


If she actually knew anything about those sort of sites she should be fully aware that the same thing with genders swapped is also everywhere. Schoolgirl fetish is a pretty big thing on the ol p-hub.

I agree for a lot of teenagers it probably would have slightly different effects but the law clearly states that if you shag somebody under 18 when you're in a position of trust, you have broken the law. In effect what she's asking for is women to get less punishment for the same crime. No thank you.

Trust the Guardian to publish something like this? They should at least retract it from their website and offer a public apology imo! This kind of attitude wasn't acceptable eight years ago, and it certainly isn't okay now!

Idk why I'm being quoted in your post but I had no idea this article was 7 years old 'cause it sounded like the same sort of absolute rubbish militant feminist ranters would publish now. There's no point retracting it because the views of their really feminist columnists haven't really changed over time. Just look at anything written by Jessica Valenti.