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"Ann Widdecombe versus the benefits culture"

generalebriety

16

For those who watched the programme: thoughts?

Reply 1

andy_1989

Just watched it, made me feel sick!

Reply 2

Tory Dan

11

Damn I missed it, was it any good?

Reply 3

_jackofdiamonds

10

That guy was a freak. Still waiting for Ann Widdecombe versus an agitated lion though.

Reply 4

blondevalkyrie

15

Unbelievably outrageous!

Reply 5

cottonmouth

11

The programme was atrocious, as are all done by that old hag. No insight into anything, it was quite literally her screaming "get a job", him screaming "shut up", the WHOLE WAY THROUGH. She really lets herself down with these trite programmes. I don't expect much from a hardcore right-winger trying to delve into the complexities of social problems, but come on!

I have seen this guy before, i'm sure we all have. Just an extreme example of some of the negative aspects of the benefits system.

A big issue is the dependency culture that it can help to foster- but there was no insight into this. No breaking down of the cost- no mention of the fact that most of these benefits are not put into thre hands of the families. No mention of the suffering children- and how much more they would suffder without the benefits their parents receive. The whole thing was a complete waste of space and time. Very easy to see why this wasn't commissioned by the BBC. It deserved the crappy ITV slot it got.

Reply 6

Dionysus

15

What a moronic programme. I live in Derby and I can tell you that yes there are a lot of people claiming benefits in Derby who shouldn't be, and that Mick Philpott is NOT one of them. Those who know him make it clear that he is a very good parent, that his children benefit from every penny he receives and that his requests for a bigger house are not unjustified given the overcrowding in his property.

YES he shouldn't have had so many kids

YES he isn't the most refined of chaps

BUT it is complete nonsense that he has been on benefits all his life, he worked for over 20 years, and it is only recently that he's been unemployed. Furthermore, with that many kids, it is a valid argument that 3 adults are needed in the house for the welfare of the children. But as I've already mentioned, on the children front, he really does do his best to look after them. That programme completely misrepresented him. There are some considerably worse abusers of the benefits system.

Reply 7

gas_panic!

12

ITV in poor quality programming shocker.

Reply 8

_jackofdiamonds

10

I'm surprised ITchaV would put on a program slating their core demographic.

Reply 9

generalebriety

OP

16

dan_man

Damn I missed it, was it any good?

That depends.

I find her inimitably annoying. She seems to think she has the inalienable right to turn her nose up at people's lives. Today mostly featured a guy with 2 wives and 17 kids (or something in that region) who was claiming benefits, and she started turning her nose up at it and making sarcy comments implying they couldn't possibly be happy because it was "strange". She went into his house and started shouting at him to get a job, started slagging him off in the middle of the street, and eventually was cheeky enough to find him a job, but because it was kinda manual labour and he injured his wrist shortly afterwards (and who wouldn't, having not worked for years?), she came back to slag him off again. He gave as good as he got, thankfully.

Reply 10

Vision

8

Well that was yet another programme by the rat type hag thing that made me think: why doesn't she listen to other peoples side of things rather than thinking that she's always right and anything she doesn't agree with is wrong. Still she's an MP all she can do is scream and shout her un-constructive opinion.

Reply 11

Tory Dan

11

Sounds quite a good programme then judging by all the lefties that are moaning about it.

Reply 12

_jackofdiamonds

10

Vision

Well that was yet another programme by the rat type hag thing that made me think: why doesn't she listen to other peoples side of things rather than thinking that she's always right and anything she doesn't agree with is wrong. Still she's an MP all she can do is scream and shout her un-constructive opinion.

She did listen to 'his side of things', that first being claiming that 2 dogs supported the whole family of 20, that he claimed benefits but managed to have 2 cars and a home cinema system, that anyone who took issue with this could take a running jump, and calling her a bitch.

Reply 13

Profesh

20

She desperately needs to get laid.

Reply 14

Vision

8

By not listening to his side of things I mean when she asked him why he hasn't got a job, and before he could even finish the first word she started screaming at him. Granted at least one person in that family should have a job but for all we know he could be a good father. It didn't really give much insight into his day to day life.

Reply 15

2026

15

I missed whatever programme is being debated here.

I'm not a fan of Ann Widdecombe anyway. Her position against abortion and gay rights is despicable.

Reply 16

Howard

5

cottonmouth

The programme was atrocious, as are all done by that old hag. No insight into anything, it was quite literally her screaming "get a job",

That's a bit rich coming from a career politician who has quite probably never done a hard days work in her life and who owes her existance to the State.

Reply 17

cottonmouth

11

Howard

That's a bit rich coming from a career politician who has quite probably never done a hard days work in her life and who owes her existance to the State.

Indeed. There was also this little segue where she left the poor fella alone and went and hounded a couple of girls in a pub,getting them jobs in a factory. The earnings where £360 a week. And she had the gall to say" see, an honest works week for honest pay", or whatever *******s phrase she nicked from the other Tory old hag, Thatcher. I mean, a woman who earns over £50,000 a year, telling people to be content on £360 a week? In factory work? It just beggared belief. I'd love to see the wench in a factory for a week, and see how long she carried on with it before sacking it off due to back problems or whatever.

And she is offensively ugly. I don't believe for a second she never wanteds to get ragged; its a simple case of needed so many beers before commencing the act that the men all died of alcoholic poisoning before they got hard.

Reply 18

cottonmouth

11

dan_man

Sounds quite a good programme then judging by all the lefties that are moaning about it.

Yes, you would have loved it. If you ever do get to see it, make sure you wipe the screen after you shoot over it, you don't want mummy coming down for GMTV to find son-semen all over the place.

Reply 19

clyn

1

Profesh

She desperately needs to get laid.

Oh, you are so going to hell for giving me that image. :eyeball:

I'm going to point out the blatently obvious and say that it was perhaps supposed to be shock-TV, y'know, like Jeremy Kyle and other progs where the viewers can sit and feel smug about not being like "that skanky bitch" (actual quote from a tutor re. some of the women on there :biggrin:

), which evidently wouldn't work if the programme showed both sides.

But she's generally too abrasive and Tory-ish for my tastes anyway so I'm probably biased.

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