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probably made mind up already however is there any guys/girls who are in either profession with more insight than me and can give me some tips on;

how intense is the comparative studies? not looking to take it easy just a simple question!

working wage in ist yr after CPE/in house Dr?

specialisms and career pathways in racism?/ neurosurgery?

potential earning is either?

(if anybody has maybe experienced both profs can give me a brief/specific cross analysis of eathother)

just looking for any info or advice for either
thanks guys
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Im a Law student so i may be biased when i say go for law. But you will be far far richer and you can still help people by doing pro bono work, but most importantly you will have POWER!! (evil laugh) MWAH-HAW-HAW-HAW!!!!.
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Have a read of this
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(Original post by Lord Huntroyde)
Have a read of this
And the implementation of the Human Rights Act, Racial Discrimination Act, Sexual Discrimination Act, and the multitude of forthcoming equality Acts e.g. disability and age discrimination acts will do nothing to improve people’s quality of life???????????


Law plays an integral role in the mechanics of society, its not just a way of amassing vast amounts of cash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
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to the lord, very good, helped a lot,
another quick q, gonna post on admissions forum aswell
got poor grades in my alevels, which were in chem,phys,law
however got accepted at huddersfield uni (which i fully understand isnt a top university-altho had good rep for politics) but had to go as only that took me on following my a levels, completed and gained a 2.1 degree in pols, now what if anything will stand against me , if i pass my gamsat?
the uni i went to?, the alevel results?
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Only one comment to add to that debate. I have recently worked in Hr at my hospital and found the list of consultant sallaries. This is a normal hospital without ant special features and arround £100k was very common. The highest was £130K and the lowest £60k.
These do not include private work.
I know some lawyers who do not earn very much. When we talk of earning millions in law that is for the very best. What we need to do is to look at the standard lawyer, not the top of the end.
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Only one comment to add to that debate. I have recently worked in Hr at my hospital and found the list of consultant sallaries. This is a normal hospital without ant special features and arround £100k was very common. The highest was £130K and the lowest £60k.
These do not include private work.
I know some lawyers who do not earn very much. When we talk of earning millions in law that is for the very best. What we need to do is to look at the standard lawyer, not the top of the end.
Good point.
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Get some work experience in both fields.

As a medic, I'm biased and would be bored to death by a career in law.
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I suppose medicine is okay, if a little too vocational for my liking. Slogging away in a sweaty ward full of human detritus and MRSA isn't exactly paradisiacal - but I can see why people do it...poor souls.

The opening battle sequence of Saving Private Ryan is enough to convince me that medicine isn't the way forward. The Field Medics get pestered to treat all manner of incurable ailments, and for their pains, one of them gets brutally taken out.

"Where were the lawyers?" You ask.

Forging plans in High Command, sheltered and in reasonably luxurious surroundings, given the circumstances.
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haha good stuff mobb deep!!!

so has anyone made this decision before between the two, how do you choose if part of you is intrigued and blinded by the science
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committed to the cause.

forget about the money or the social implications of both fields for a min plz?


in terms of medicine..so to clear up, if i attain a good grade in my gamsat or pass plus 60, with added relevant work exp..nothing else can stand against me in terms of requirments ie. uni attended,alevel results....

obviously and most importantly the interview is key but thats a diff q, just the requirments???

The opening battle sequence of Saving Private Ryan is enough to convince me that medicine isn't the way forward. The Field Medics get pestered to treat all manner of incurable ailments, and for their pains, one of them gets brutally taken out.
mobbdeep my man life is more than big houses and fancy suits no?......!???!!
sheltered and in reasonably luxurious surroundings
brilliant!
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medical law?

hmm, i probably don't have much contructive to say - although i'm a medical student now & did want to go into Law when i took my GCSEs.. i think ultimately i felt (note the *i* here..no flaming please! ) that i could make more of an immediate difference through medicine - also after doing full time summer work in an office environment that it would eventually drive me crazy - i need to be doing more practical & physical things as well.


If you pass GAMSAT though, i think it renders degree & A level qualifications irrelevant (have you looked at past papers though? i've heard plenty of science phD holders say it is a HORRENDOUS exam) but obviously that might only get you shortlisted for interview..

good luck with your decision!
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hmm, i probably don't have much contructive to say
That's just a minor inconvenience, which can be overcome. Afterall, I managed to post.
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elles, im gettin the practice papers sent thru, my word its that hard, even with 25hr a day stdying, your points are cool tho?

ive heard the same both ends, that its extremely hard and others say its as hard a sfirst half of alevels, so i presume aslevel standard then?

im yet to find out?
how did u find it elles?
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so has anyone made this decision before between the two, how do you choose if part of you is intrigued and blinded by the science
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committed to the cause.

forget about the money or the social implications of both fields for a min plz?
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(Original post by mobbdeeprob)
That's just a minor inconvenience, which can be overcome. Afterall, I managed to post.
that made me giggle.. although perhaps i shouldn't.. i have a hunch i may be being mocked..

(Original post by beatnik)
elles, im gettin the practice papers sent thru, my word its that hard, even with 25hr a day stdying, your points are cool tho?

ive heard the same both ends, that its extremely hard and others say its as hard a sfirst half of alevels, so i presume aslevel standard then?

im yet to find out?
how did u find it elles?
I haven't seen GAMSAT papers - i applied straight from A levels, which apparently is easier .

I think the actual science knowledge is ~A level? but covers physics, biology & chemistry. the challenge apparently is the essay questions you have to do & the sheer time challenge & number of papers you sit that day.

looking at the papers will give you a good idea though!
plus http://www.medschoolguide.co.uk/forum may be useful - as they have lots of graduate medics or applicants there.
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medical law is an option. Another would be to work in the city providing advice to brokers etc about the potential of healthcare stocks. There are many varied careers one can have with a med degree. The advantage of it over law is that if you want you can get in to a secure career with very good pay.

To the original point, if we forget about the top lawyers on £1m+ and look at your average lawyer and average medic, who comes out top. Many Drs become GPs - starting on £65-70K - check BMJ for proof. It is not that unusual for them to get up to £100k - again BMJ.
The big question is whether most lawyers earn this much. I'm not talking about Clifford Chance - they are not the place where most law grads end up.
Probably top lawyers earn more than top Drs - very few Drs earn £1m - but how many lawyers do? I have no idea. However for a private London specialist, £150 for an 1/2 hour consultation is average.
If anyone knows, please post the answers.
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Salaries are probably, on the whole, quite similar.
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ooh, i had a thought that could be described as relevant monetarily speaking!

pensions.

apparently the NHS one is a very good deal.. (don't ask me why exactly, although i did read somewhere - security & it's based on your final year salary or something..)
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ooh, i had a thought that could be described as relevant monetarily speaking!

pensions.

apparently the NHS one is a very good deal.. (don't ask me why exactly, although i did read somewhere - security & it's based on your final year salary or something..)
The NHS has a final-salary pension scheme, which is the best kind.
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medical law is an option. Another would be to work in the city providing advice to brokers etc about the potential of healthcare stocks. There are many varied careers one can have with a med degree. The advantage of it over law is that if you want you can get in to a secure career with very good pay.
Exams, exams, exams - even after university graduation, to move up every small step of the professional ladder. I wouldn't call that security.

(Original post by InterCity125)
To the original point, if we forget about the top lawyers on £1m+ and look at your average lawyer and average medic, who comes out top.
The average barrister is a good deal wealthier than the average medic.

(Original post by Intercity125)
Many Drs become GPs - starting on £65-70K - check BMJ for proof. It is not that unusual for them to get up to £100k - again BMJ.
Who wants to become a GP? I couldn't think of anything more tedious.


(Original post by Intercity125)
The big question is whether most lawyers earn this much. I'm not talking about Clifford Chance - they are not the place where most law grads end up.
Probably top lawyers earn more than top Drs - very few Drs earn £1m - but how many lawyers do? I have no idea. However for a private London specialist, £150 for an 1/2 hour consultation is average.
If anyone knows, please post the answers.
Indeed, statistics would be appreciated, if anybody could dig them out.

I would say that the "serious money" bracket (£150,000 +) is frequented by a lot more lawyers (barristers, partners of medium-sized firms) than medics.

We're not even talking about Queen's Counsels or lawyers working in MC firms to earn this much either, it can be achieved at several practices (nationwide, too) or by a pretty (but not overly) successful barrister.
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