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    I have the grades to get in and they all seem, more or less, nice enough.

    Could you tell me which is/are the "best" and pehaps why? (I'll be taking the 4/5-yr course, MSci or similar)

    I want good teachers who enjoy (and are good at) teaching. I also like small groups (tutorials/problemsolving) and nice buildings/area is a big plus.

    Oh, and I'm a 21yr (will be 22/23 when starting course) female from Sweden and would appreciate some similar people (international/"mature" /female).

    Thanks,
    Florence/Dancer83
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    Generally the best regarded unis for Physics are:

    Oxford
    Cambridge (only does Natural Sciences where you can specialise in Physics after 1st year or so)
    Durham
    Warwick
    Imperial College, London (similarly UCL)
    Bath

    I would also imagine Bristol and Nottingham are ranked quite highly. However, I can't really advise on the "mature scene" as I'm only just 18! I know Oxbridge have colleges specifically for more mature students and there are several people on here who go to them (but they're not studying Physics). None of them will look badly on you being a women - I am and got offers from Oxford, Warwick, Imperial, Bath, Reading and Surrey! In fact many of them will look favourably on your application. Oxford tend to have very few female Physicists (most colleges will only have 1 or even none) whereas from my experience Warwick and the London Uni's had far more. The Buildings in Oxbridge, Durham and Bath are all very pretty, and Imperial is set in the heart of Kensington in London which is although expensive, is much nicer than other areas. Warwick is a campus and although is nice and modern, certainly has nothing on Oxbridge's architecture.

    Finally, I don't know much about Edingburgh or St Andrew's for Physics, but would certainly say they are not in the top5 for the subject. Internationally, they seem quite well known for their names, but in England they are not really considered some of the top unis. Edingburgh is better than St And in my opinion)
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    cough *manchester* cough
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    cough *manchester* cough
    They have Jodrell Bank .
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    Thanks, especially to hoofbeat.

    Any other opinions?
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    (Original post by Hoofbeat)
    Generally the best regarded unis for Physics are:

    Oxford
    Cambridge (only does Natural Sciences where you can specialise in Physics after 1st year or so)
    Durham
    Warwick
    Imperial College, London (similarly UCL)
    Bath

    I would also imagine Bristol and Nottingham are ranked quite highly.
    Just a quick comment - Oxford only allows you to do options in atronomy/astrophysics and doesn't allow you to do it as an entire subject. So if you're really set on astrophysics or astronomy or any applied branch of Physics for that matter then you might find a lot of the other stuff pointless - I know I did so I changed course at the end of 1st year. The same will apply to Cambridge. To the list I'd add Leicester - they've got the space centre there and are very good with space engineering/astrophysics etc.
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    (Original post by Dancer83)
    Thanks, especially to hoofbeat.
    You're welcome

    (Original post by davey_boy)
    Just a quick comment - Oxford only allows you to do options in atronomy/astrophysics and doesn't allow you to do it as an entire subject. So if you're really set on astrophysics or astronomy or any applied branch of Physics for that matter then you might find a lot of the other stuff pointless - I know I did so I changed course at the end of 1st year. The same will apply to Cambridge. To the list I'd add Leicester - they've got the space centre there and are very good with space engineering/astrophysics etc.
    Yeah Leicester is quite good especially for the more astro side. When I first started lookin for Physics courses I was interested in astro physics and I found hardly any of the top unis do astro-physics degrees (I think Warwick do?)! I think dancer, you need to chose between whether you really want to go to one of the top unis and sacrifice the astro side or whether you would rather specialise in the subject you love and go to one of the lower ranked unis (that are still very very good, but not "the best" you refer to)
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    (Original post by Dancer83)
    I have the grades to get in and they all seem, more or less, nice enough.

    Could you tell me which is/are the "best" and pehaps why? (I'll be taking the 4/5-yr course, MSci or similar)

    I want good teachers who enjoy (and are good at) teaching. I also like small groups (tutorials/problemsolving) and nice buildings/area is a big plus.

    Oh, and I'm a 21yr (will be 22/23 when starting course) female from Sweden and would appreciate some similar people (international/"mature" /female).

    Thanks,
    Florence/Dancer83
    Durham has the best Physics and Astronomy department in the country, and if you like nice buildings then you'll love the ogden centre (the new physics building).

    I would have to sugges the MSci in Physics at durham, but then I am biased .
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    (Original post by AntiMagicMan)
    Durham has the best Physics and Astronomy department in the country, and if you like nice buildings then you'll love the ogden centre (the new physics building).

    I would have to sugges the MSci in Physics at durham, but then I am biased .
    Are the lecturers good?
    And what are the "lecture theatres" and "class-rooms" like?
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    In the first year we had a good number of our lectures in the geography building (all my lectures were located at the science site though, don't be worried about hiking miles to get to these places ), because it had one of the largest lecture halls. Also we had most of our maths lectures in the Chemistry department .

    Generally the quality of the lecture theatres is good. They all have projectors which the lecturers can connect their laptops to, so it is all quite hi-tech.

    The lecturers are all pretty decent, the classes which go over topics from A-level are the most tedious, but once you get onto the new stuff most of the lecturers are pretty interested in the subject and are quite enthusiastic about teaching. You do get (like any university) the lecturers who don't care about students and just want to get on with their research, but those kind of people normally end up teaching a group of fourth years and so may actually regard their students as humans .
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    Thanks, that sounds okay I guess.

    What's the "atmosphere" among the students, do the "Physics-people" (those who have lectures together) socialize with each other or mainly with people from their college?
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    (Original post by Hoofbeat)
    Generally the best regarded unis for Physics are:

    Oxford
    Cambridge (only does Natural Sciences where you can specialise in Physics after 1st year or so)
    Durham
    Warwick
    Imperial College, London (similarly UCL)
    Bath
    No no no Hoofbeat....please correct your statement to "The universities that I feel are the best for physics are..."...it's all well and good making general statements but they are meaningless-it's your opinion, not a fact. For example I would have included from your list only : Cambridge, ICL, Durham and perhaps Bath...again my opinion.
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    (Original post by BossLady)
    No no no Hoofbeat....please correct your statement to "The universities that I feel are the best for physics are..."...it's all well and good making general statements but they are meaningless-it's your opinion, not a fact. For example I would have included from your list only : Cambridge, ICL, Durham and perhaps Bath...again my opinion.
    Well actually, they aren't necessarily the ones that I rank highly due to personal opinion and certain places - I'm not a huge fan of Cams NatSci course as I dont think you specialise early enough and therefore I wouldn't really list it, however I included it due to its world wide reputation, alumni and general ranking in league tables. The list I gave contains the Uni's which are usually highly ranked for Physics by taking into account several different league tables and NOT the best in my opinion.
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    (Original post by Hoofbeat)
    Well actually, they aren't necessarily the ones that I rank highly due to personal opinion and certain places - I'm not a huge fan of Cams NatSci course as I dont think you specialise early enough and therefore I wouldn't really list it, however I included it due to its world wide reputation, alumni and general ranking in league tables. The list I gave contains the Uni's which are usually highly ranked for Physics by taking into account several different league tables and NOT the best in my opinion.
    No, no hoofbeat...you're doing it again, making claims which are unsubstastiated. You can't just randomly combine all the tables in your mind, making a sort of supertable ranking the best unis for physics and try to pass this off as something other than mainly opinion based...

    Example:
    Bath is at 17 on the Times table for Physics and astro
    Bath is 35 on the Guardian table for Physics
    UCL is 22 on the Times table for Physics and astro (although improves much more on the guardian's...however when has anyone ever relied on the guardian :rolleyes: )

    So you see the list you gave is more a list of univs with a good general reputation rather than neccessarily with a good physics rep. The unis mentioned are not neccessarily the best in physics, the list is basically your opinion...have the decency to admit it! :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by BossLady)
    No, no hoofbeat...you're doing it again, making claims which are unsubstastiated. You can't just randomly combine all the tables in your mind, making a sort of supertable ranking the best unis for physics and try to pass this off as something other than mainly opinion based...

    Example:
    Bath is at 17 on the Times table for Physics and astro
    Bath is 35 on the Guardian table for Physics
    UCL is 22 on the Times table for Physics and astro (although improves much more on the guardian's...however when has anyone ever relied on the guardian :rolleyes: )

    So you see the list you gave is more a list of univs with a good general reputation rather than neccessarily with a good physics rep. The unis mentioned are not neccessarily the best in physics, the list is basically your opinion...have the decency to admit it! :rolleyes:
    no one is asking her to jusitfy it, the universities that she has mentioned are well regarded amongst most lecturers and the fact the the a-level grades of candidates going to these places are more than enough justification for her claims.

    The thread starter was obviously interested in which uni's are good for physics and Hoofbeat has provided some that she can look into. The thread is open for other suggestions and through discussion which is regarded the best and the merits of certain universities will be revealed. If you disagree with her, in stead of criticising the way she expressed her ideas I would state which ones you think are the best as then the thread starter will have a better idea of the diversity of ideas rather than an arguement on her hands.

    One would also hope that the thread starter would look into this themselves and this is only a brief guide of where to start looking, a daunting task for a foreign student.
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    (Original post by BossLady)
    No, no hoofbeat...you're doing it again, making claims which are unsubstastiated. You can't just randomly combine all the tables in your mind, making a sort of supertable ranking the best unis for physics and try to pass this off as something other than mainly opinion based...

    Example:
    Bath is at 17 on the Times table for Physics and astro
    Bath is 35 on the Guardian table for Physics
    UCL is 22 on the Times table for Physics and astro (although improves much more on the guardian's...however when has anyone ever relied on the guardian :rolleyes: )

    So you see the list you gave is more a list of univs with a good general reputation rather than neccessarily with a good physics rep. The unis mentioned are not neccessarily the best in physics, the list is basically your opinion...have the decency to admit it! :rolleyes:
    I'm not going to state that the uni's listed are my opinion as they are not. When I listed the uni's I took into no account whether I applied there, why I didn't etc etc. As I stated, my small list comes from my knowledge of what Uni's are regarded well OVERALL for their Physics Reputation, not necessarily their teaching quality. I've also included one's well known for their more practical aspects - Bath for example, as well as those who focus more on the maths element - Oxford & Warwick. These are Uni's that have been in the top of a variety of league tables over the last few years and have been fairl consistent. They are also ones that have been recommended by previous Physics students, teachers and career advisers.

    I stand by my statement and refuse to declare the list as "MY OPINION OF THE BEST PHYSICS UNI'S" because they aren't my opinion! They are a generalised list covering some of the well known Uni's for Physics that score highly for teaching quality, research, facilities, future employment etc CONSISTENTLY!
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    no one is asking her to jusitfy it, the universities that she has mentioned are well regarded amongst most lecturers and the fact the the a-level grades of candidates going to these places are more than enough justification for her claims.

    The thread starter was obviously interested in which uni's are good for physics and Hoofbeat has provided some that she can look into. The thread is open for other suggestions and through discussion which is regarded the best and the merits of certain universities will be revealed. If you disagree with her, in stead of criticising the way she expressed her ideas I would state which ones you think are the best as then the thread starter will have a better idea of the diversity of ideas rather than an arguement on her hands.

    One would also hope that the thread starter would look into this themselves and this is only a brief guide of where to start looking, a daunting task for a foreign student.
    Yay! Someone who understand what I mean Thanks
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    Yes, BossLady may have a small point, as to if you read it exactly, word by word, but on the other hand most people don't. I thought it was quite clear what Hoofbeat was trying to say. No one would expect someone to give a definite list of the uni's with best reputation as it's not actually a stable/real quantity/measure (my opinion).

    Again, thank you Hoofbeat for the guide (I really apreciate the "details" about the "focus" of the different courses. Also thanks to AntiMagicMan (I've almost settled for Durham ). (And don't worry, I have "investigated" further, it's just easier when you know where to start)

    Thanks to everyone else making this point a little intresting
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    (Original post by Dancer83)
    Yes, BossLady may have a small point, as to if you read it exactly, word by word, but on the other hand most people don't. I thought it was quite clear what Hoofbeat was trying to say. No one would expect someone to give a definite list of the uni's with best reputation as it's not actually a stable/real quantity/measure (my opinion).

    Again, thank you Hoofbeat for the guide (I really apreciate the "details" about the "focus" of the different courses. Also thanks to AntiMagicMan (I've almost settled for Durham ). (And don't worry, I have "investigated" further, it's just easier when you know where to start)

    Thanks to everyone else making this point a little intresting
    Florence
    just be warned there isnt much apart from the uni in durham to do
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    (Original post by Incomplete)
    no one is asking her to jusitfy it, the universities that she has mentioned are well regarded amongst most lecturers and the fact the the a-level grades of candidates going to these places are more than enough justification for her claims.
    This doesn't wash I'm afraid....the grades of Alevel candidates are getting better and better, the proportion of people in the top 15 unis and many below that clutching a number of 'A' grades is increasing quite swiftly. What you have suggested above implies that any of the univs in the top 15 can be assumed to be excellent at physics, which is not neccessarily the case.
    Of course it has also often been highlighted on this board that A-levels merely represent the supply and demand of the subject in question-I myself dont totally agree with this point though.
    Additionally, the univs themselves may be well regarded (and I indicated they were by stating that they all had "a good general reputation"), but I have already shown that for physics they might not all be.
    (Original post by Incomplete)
    The thread starter was obviously interested in which uni's are good for physics and Hoofbeat has provided some that she can look into. The thread is open for other suggestions and through discussion which is regarded the best and the merits of certain universities will be revealed. If you disagree with her, in stead of criticising the way she expressed her ideas I would state which ones you think are the best as then the thread starter will have a better idea of the diversity of ideas rather than an arguement on her hands.
    I wonder if you actually read my originally post thoroughly rather than perhaps browsing it, since I did state there which univs IMO were good at said subject, out of Hoofbeat's list.
    However if I feel something is not quite correct, I will point it out. Whether it causes and argument isn't that important and infact I'm all for a good debate!
    (Original post by Incomplete)
    One would also hope that the thread starter would look into this themselves and this is only a brief guide of where to start looking, a daunting task for a foreign student.
    Indeed
 
 
 
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