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Has anyone got any offers from UCL who are applying for an Economics/ Eco+Stats course ? If so, please state
- your offer
- your predictions
- your GCSEs

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deutschmaster99 dont worry man if u dont get an offer i will cut my balls off :smile:
Reply 2
Original post by Deutschmaster99
Has anyone got any offers from UCL who are applying for an Economics/ Eco+Stats course ? If so, please state
- your offer
- your predictions
- your GCSEs


dw man ur gonna offer them why would they offer y
offer: AAA
prediction: A*AA
GCSEs: 7A* 4A
+killer ps :wink:
Original post by imokatmaths
offer: AAA
prediction: A*AA
GCSEs: 7A* 4A
+killer ps :wink:


Did you have to attend a mandorary open day for UCL before getting the offer ?


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Reply 6
Original post by imokatmaths
offer: AAA
prediction: A*AA
GCSEs: 7A* 4A
+killer ps :wink:


Hi
may i ask when you sent your application?
Reply 7
Original post by sophielsy
Hi
may i ask when you sent your application?


Hi

My prediction is A*A*A*A* and my IQ is 300. My GCSE was 15A*. I have found out the end of pi and have traversed the universe in all its forms. I am the beginning and the end. I am the daddy of the world. And I got rejected from UCL. I'm feeling a bit down but its ok cos i got into Cambridge and oxford unconditional so smd
Original post by sophielsy
Hi
may i ask when you sent your application?


i sent it off mid november :wink:
Reply 9
Original post by Maaz69
Hi

My prediction is A*A*A*A* and my IQ is 300. My GCSE was 15A*. I have found out the end of pi and have traversed the universe in all its forms. I am the beginning and the end. I am the daddy of the world. And I got rejected from UCL. I'm feeling a bit down but its ok cos i got into Cambridge and oxford unconditional so smd


congrats then
Original post by imokatmaths
i sent it off mid november :wink:


thank you!
Reply 11
Original post by sophielsy
congrats then


i think the ending of pi is ur phone number but I can't remember it? Can u plz dm me the ending of pi so I can remember thank you
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SOLUBILITY OF THE HYDROXIDES, SULPHATES AND CARBONATES OF THE GROUP 2 ELEMENTS IN WATER



This page looks at the solubility in water of the hydroxides, sulphates and carbonates of the Group 2 elements - beryllium, magnesium, calcium, strontium and barium. Although it describes the trends, there isn't any attempt to explain them on this page - for reasons discussed later.
You will find that there aren't any figures given for any of the solubilities. There are major discrepancies between the figures given by two common UK A level Data Books (Nuffield Advanced Science Book of Data, and Chemistry Data Book by Stark and Wallace). There are also important inconsistencies within the books (one set of figures doesn't agree with those which can be calculated from another set). I haven't been able to find data which I am sure is correct, and therefore prefer not to give any.



The Facts

Solubility of the hydroxides


The hydroxides become more soluble as you go down the Group.


This is a trend which holds for the whole Group, and applies whichever set of data you choose.
Some examples may help you to remember the trend:
Magnesium hydroxide appears to be insoluble in water. However, if you shake it with water, filter it and test the pH of the solution, you find that it is slightly alkaline. This shows that there are more hydroxide ions in the solution than there were in the original water. Some magnesium hydroxide must have dissolved.
Calcium hydroxide solution is used as "lime water". 1 litre of pure water will dissolve about 1 gram of calcium hydroxide at room temperature.
Barium hydroxide is soluble enough to be able to produce a solution with a concentration of around 0.1 mol dm-3 at room temperature.
Solubility of the sulphates


The sulphates become less soluble as you go down the Group.


The simple trend is true provided you include hydrated beryllium sulphate in it, but not if the beryllium sulphate is anhydrous.
The Nuffield Data Book quotes anyhydrous beryllium sulphate, BeSO4, as insoluble (I haven't been able to confirm this from any other source), whereas the hydrated form, BeSO4.4H2O is soluble. (The Data Books agree on this - giving a figure of about 39 g dissolving in 100 g of water at room temperature.)
Figures for magnesium sulphate and calcium sulphate also vary depending on whether the salt is hydrated or not, but nothing like so dramatically.
Two common examples may help you to remember the trend:
You are probably familiar with the reaction between magnesium and dilute sulphuric acid to give lots of hydrogen and a colourless solution of magnesium sulphate. Notice that you get a solution, not a precipitate. The magnesium sulphate is obviously soluble.

You may also remember that barium sulphate is formed as a white precipitate during the test for sulphate ions in solution. The ready formation of a precipitate shows that the barium sulphate must be pretty insoluble. In fact, 1 litre of water will only dissolve about 2 mg of barium sulphate at room temperature.
Solubility of the carbonates


The carbonates tend to become less soluble as you go down the Group.


None of the carbonates is anything more than very sparingly soluble. Magnesium carbonate (the most soluble one I have data for) is soluble to the extent of about 0.02 g per 100 g of water at room temperature.
I can't find any data for beryllium carbonate, but it tends to react with water and so that might confuse the trend.
The trend to lower solubility is, however, broken at the bottom of the Group. Barium carbonate is slightly more soluble than strontium carbonate.
There are no simple examples which might help you to remember the carbonate trend.





What - no explanations?

Before I started to write this page, I thought I understood the trends in solubility patterns including the explanations for them. The more I have dug around to try to find reliable data, and the more time I have spent thinking about it, the less I'm sure that it is possible to come up with any simple explanation of the solubility patterns.
Reply 14
Original post by Songeeth baby
SOLUBILITY OF THE HYDROXIDES, SULPHATES AND CARBONATES OF THE GROUP 2 ELEMENTS IN WATER



This page looks at the solubility in water of the hydroxides, sulphates and carbonates of the Group 2 elements - beryllium, magnesium, calcium, strontium and barium. Although it describes the trends, there isn't any attempt to explain them on this page - for reasons discussed later.
You will find that there aren't any figures given for any of the solubilities. There are major discrepancies between the figures given by two common UK A level Data Books (Nuffield Advanced Science Book of Data, and Chemistry Data Book by Stark and Wallace). There are also important inconsistencies within the books (one set of figures doesn't agree with those which can be calculated from another set). I haven't been able to find data which I am sure is correct, and therefore prefer not to give any.



The Facts

Solubility of the hydroxides

The hydroxides become more soluble as you go down the Group.



This is a trend which holds for the whole Group, and applies whichever set of data you choose.
Some examples may help you to remember the trend:
Magnesium hydroxide appears to be insoluble in water. However, if you shake it with water, filter it and test the pH of the solution, you find that it is slightly alkaline. This shows that there are more hydroxide ions in the solution than there were in the original water. Some magnesium hydroxide must have dissolved.
Calcium hydroxide solution is used as "lime water". 1 litre of pure water will dissolve about 1 gram of calcium hydroxide at room temperature.
Barium hydroxide is soluble enough to be able to produce a solution with a concentration of around 0.1 mol dm-3 at room temperature.
Solubility of the sulphates

The sulphates become less soluble as you go down the Group.




The simple trend is true provided you include hydrated beryllium sulphate in it, but not if the beryllium sulphate is anhydrous.
The Nuffield Data Book quotes anyhydrous beryllium sulphate, BeSO4, as insoluble (I haven't been able to confirm this from any other source), whereas the hydrated form, BeSO4.4H2O is soluble. (The Data Books agree on this - giving a figure of about 39 g dissolving in 100 g of water at room temperature.)
Figures for magnesium sulphate and calcium sulphate also vary depending on whether the salt is hydrated or not, but nothing like so dramatically.
Two common examples may help you to remember the trend:
You are probably familiar with the reaction between magnesium and dilute sulphuric acid to give lots of hydrogen and a colourless solution of magnesium sulphate. Notice that you get a solution, not a precipitate. The magnesium sulphate is obviously soluble.

You may also remember that barium sulphate is formed as a white precipitate during the test for sulphate ions in solution. The ready formation of a precipitate shows that the barium sulphate must be pretty insoluble. In fact, 1 litre of water will only dissolve about 2 mg of barium sulphate at room temperature.
Solubility of the carbonates

The carbonates tend to become less soluble as you go down the Group.




None of the carbonates is anything more than very sparingly soluble. Magnesium carbonate (the most soluble one I have data for) is soluble to the extent of about 0.02 g per 100 g of water at room temperature.
I can't find any data for beryllium carbonate, but it tends to react with water and so that might confuse the trend.
The trend to lower solubility is, however, broken at the bottom of the Group. Barium carbonate is slightly more soluble than strontium carbonate.
There are no simple examples which might help you to remember the carbonate trend.





What - no explanations?

Before I started to write this page, I thought I understood the trends in solubility patterns including the explanations for them. The more I have dug around to try to find reliable data, and the more time I have spent thinking about it, the less I'm sure that it is possible to come up with any simple explanation of the solubility patterns.



This is Econ&Stats, Chemistry is like ingesting poison and clawing my eyes out. pls.
Original post by petermp
This is Econ&Stats, Chemistry is like ingesting poison and clawing my eyes out. pls.

lol true
Reply 16
Original post by Songeeth baby
SOLUBILITY OF THE HYDROXIDES, SULPHATES AND CARBONATES OF THE GROUP 2 ELEMENTS IN WATER



This page looks at the solubility in water of the hydroxides, sulphates and carbonates of the Group 2 elements - beryllium, magnesium, calcium, strontium and barium. Although it describes the trends, there isn't any attempt to explain them on this page - for reasons discussed later.
You will find that there aren't any figures given for any of the solubilities. There are major discrepancies between the figures given by two common UK A level Data Books (Nuffield Advanced Science Book of Data, and Chemistry Data Book by Stark and Wallace). There are also important inconsistencies within the books (one set of figures doesn't agree with those which can be calculated from another set). I haven't been able to find data which I am sure is correct, and therefore prefer not to give any.



The Facts

Solubility of the hydroxides

The hydroxides become more soluble as you go down the Group.



This is a trend which holds for the whole Group, and applies whichever set of data you choose.
Some examples may help you to remember the trend:
Magnesium hydroxide appears to be insoluble in water. However, if you shake it with water, filter it and test the pH of the solution, you find that it is slightly alkaline. This shows that there are more hydroxide ions in the solution than there were in the original water. Some magnesium hydroxide must have dissolved.
Calcium hydroxide solution is used as "lime water". 1 litre of pure water will dissolve about 1 gram of calcium hydroxide at room temperature.
Barium hydroxide is soluble enough to be able to produce a solution with a concentration of around 0.1 mol dm-3 at room temperature.
Solubility of the sulphates

The sulphates become less soluble as you go down the Group.




The simple trend is true provided you include hydrated beryllium sulphate in it, but not if the beryllium sulphate is anhydrous.
The Nuffield Data Book quotes anyhydrous beryllium sulphate, BeSO4, as insoluble (I haven't been able to confirm this from any other source), whereas the hydrated form, BeSO4.4H2O is soluble. (The Data Books agree on this - giving a figure of about 39 g dissolving in 100 g of water at room temperature.)
Figures for magnesium sulphate and calcium sulphate also vary depending on whether the salt is hydrated or not, but nothing like so dramatically.
Two common examples may help you to remember the trend:
You are probably familiar with the reaction between magnesium and dilute sulphuric acid to give lots of hydrogen and a colourless solution of magnesium sulphate. Notice that you get a solution, not a precipitate. The magnesium sulphate is obviously soluble.

You may also remember that barium sulphate is formed as a white precipitate during the test for sulphate ions in solution. The ready formation of a precipitate shows that the barium sulphate must be pretty insoluble. In fact, 1 litre of water will only dissolve about 2 mg of barium sulphate at room temperature.
Solubility of the carbonates

The carbonates tend to become less soluble as you go down the Group.




None of the carbonates is anything more than very sparingly soluble. Magnesium carbonate (the most soluble one I have data for) is soluble to the extent of about 0.02 g per 100 g of water at room temperature.
I can't find any data for beryllium carbonate, but it tends to react with water and so that might confuse the trend.
The trend to lower solubility is, however, broken at the bottom of the Group. Barium carbonate is slightly more soluble than strontium carbonate.
There are no simple examples which might help you to remember the carbonate trend.





What - no explanations?

Before I started to write this page, I thought I understood the trends in solubility patterns including the explanations for them. The more I have dug around to try to find reliable data, and the more time I have spent thinking about it, the less I'm sure that it is possible to come up with any simple explanation of the solubility patterns.


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Anyone heard anything back yet for Economics and Statistics?
Original post by Trapz99
Yeah, I received an offer on 31st January


Congrats!! If you don't mind, how was your balance like between econ and stats in your PS? I'm worried my PS is too focused on econ and mathematics in general instead of statistics specifically :s-smilie:
Original post by Econ1000
Congrats!! If you don't mind, how was your balance like between econ and stats in your PS? I'm worried my PS is too focused on econ and mathematics in general instead of statistics specifically :s-smilie:


I got offers for both BSc Economics and BSc Economics and Statistics from UCL. My personal statement was written for an Economics application (I even stated I that I am applying for Economics in the end of my personal statement), so basically, they don't care that much about the Statistics being mentioned in your personal statement.

Firstly, it is hard to even mention topics about Statistics.
Secondly, top universities don't have this course combination, so almost everyone applying will be applying for Economics or Maths and Economics in some other university.

Try to just mention the word statistics or something related to statistics in your personal statement if you can, just in case. Since they ask you for Maths and Further Maths UMS for this course, they will probably look mainly on the UMS to see your strength in Statistics/Maths.
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