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My physics teacher gave us a maths problem to solve. I solved the problem, but the number was a long decimal, which seems wrong to me. I was wondering if my method could be checked. Thanks :smile:

Question:
There is a cone, with a frustum indicated.

The volume of the frustum is 488π488\pi; the diameter of the base of the entire cone is 154\frac{15}{4}; the vertical height of the top part of the cone (above the frustum) is 9696. The top part of the frustum (base of top part of cone) has a radius of rr.

We are asked to find rr.

My solution:
The radius of the base of the entire cone is 158\frac{15}{8}.

Now, call the volume of the frustum VfV_f, for the cone VcV_c and VtV_t for the top part.

Then Vc=Vf+VtV_c = V_f + V_t

We know the volume of the frustum, so

Vc=488π+Vt488π=VcVtV_c = 488\pi + V_t \Longrightarrow 488\pi = V_c - V_t

We look for an expression for hh (the vertical height of the entire cone) in terms of rr. The ratio of rr to 158\frac{15}{8} is equal to that of hh to 9696.

So r158=h96h=180r\frac{r}{\frac{15}{8}} = \frac{h}{96} \Longrightarrow h = \frac{180}{r}

Then
Vc=h3π(158)2=225h192π=1012548rπV_c = \frac{h}{3}\pi\cdot (\frac{15}{8})^2 = \frac{225h}{192}\pi = \frac{10125}{48r}\pi

Now, Vt=963πr2=32πr2V_t = \frac{96}{3}\pi r^2 = 32\pi r^2

So 488π=1012548rπ32πr2488=1012548r32r2488\pi = \frac{10125}{48r}\pi - 32\pi r^2 \Longrightarrow 488 = \frac{10125}{48r} - 32 r^2

Multiplying through by 48r48r we have that
23424r=101251536r323424r = 10125 - 1536r^3

Hence
1536r3+23424r10125=01536r^3 + 23424r - 10125 = 0

We may divide through by three to give smaller numbers
512r3+7808r3375=0512r^3 + 7808r - 3375 = 0

Using a cubic solver, we find that the only real solution is that r0.42714r \approx 0.42714.
(edited 7 years ago)
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Original post by some-student
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Your solution is correct.

I cheated and used the formula for the volume of a frustrum.

I then plugged everything into Wolfram Alpha and got the same as you.

I don't think there's a nice way to do this question (that doesn't involve a cubic). What level of education are you at? Did your Physics teacher make this question up and why did they give it to you?
(edited 7 years ago)
Original post by some-student
My physics teacher gave us a maths problem to solve. I solved the problem, but the number was a long decimal, which seems wrong to me. I was wondering if my method could be checked. Thanks :smile:

Question:
There is a cone, with a frustum indicated.

The volume of the frustum is 488π488\pi; the diameter of the base of the entire cone is 154\frac{15}{4}; the vertical height of the top part of the cone (above the frustum) is 9696. The top part of the frustum (base of top part of cone) has a radius of rr.

We are asked to find rr.

My solution:
The radius of the base of the entire cone is 158\frac{15}{8}.

Now, call the volume of the frustum VfV_f, for the cone VcV_c and VtV_t for the top part.

Then Vc=Vf+VtV_c = V_f + V_t

We know the volume of the frustum, so

Vc=488π+Vt488π=VcVtV_c = 488\pi + V_t \Longrightarrow 488\pi = V_c - V_t

We look for an expression for hh (the vertical height of the entire cone) in terms of rr. The ratio of rr to 158\frac{15}{8} is equal to that of hh to 9696.

So r158=h96h=180r\frac{r}{\frac{15}{8}} = \frac{h}{96} \Longrightarrow h = \frac{180}{r}

Then
Vc=h3π(158)2=225h192π=1012548rπV_c = \frac{h}{3}\pi\cdot (\frac{15}{8})^2 = \frac{225h}{192}\pi = \frac{10125}{48r}\pi

Now, Vt=963πr2=32πr2V_t = \frac{96}{3}\pi r^2 = 32\pi r^2

So 488π=1012548rπ32πr2488=1012548r32r2488\pi = \frac{10125}{48r}\pi - 32\pi r^2 \Longrightarrow 488 = \frac{10125}{48r} - 32 r^2

Multiplying through by 48r48r we have that
23424r=101251536r323424r = 10125 - 1536r^3

Hence
1536r3+23424r10125=01536r^3 + 23424r - 10125 = 0

We may divide through by three to give smaller numbers
512r3+7808r3375=0512r^3 + 7808r - 3375 = 0

Using a cubic solver, we find that the only real solution is that r0.42714r \approx 0.42714.


Looks right to me!!
Original post by notnek
Your solution is correct.

I cheated and used the formula for the volume of a frustrum.

I then plugged everything into Wolfram Alpha and got the same as you.

I don't think there's a nice way to do this question (that doesn't involve a cubic). What level of education are you at? Did your Physics teacher make this question up and why did they give it to you?


I'm currently AS level and my teacher likes giving us maths problems to solve. I don't think he made it up - I think someone else did. Thanks for the response :smile:
Original post by CraigFowler
Looks right to me!!


That's reassuring, thanks :smile:
Reply 5
Original post by some-student
I'm currently AS level and my teacher likes giving us maths problems to solve. I don't think he made it up - I think someone else did. Thanks for the response :smile:

Weird question to come from a Physics teacher :smile:
Original post by notnek
Weird question to come from a Physics teacher :smile:


We also had one on circles today :smile:

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