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That's ironic.
Man Love Thursday in the Middle East isn't actually all that uncommon. It's predominantly seen as an Afghan thing but other nations in the region also have men who partake. Although I wouldn't say I regularly saw men in Bahrain holding hands in public on a Thursday night, it was certainly something that happened.

I suppose that's what happens when you're not allowed to have sex with a girl until marriage!

http://www.duffelblog.com/2015/09/man-love-thursday/

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3Dman%2520love%2520thursday%26amp%3Dtrue
Original post by Aladdinsaaane
You have basically just proved your own point wrong. So if this is due to lack fo education and people not knowing how to treat women, how come women in the west don't have to cover up in a working class town to defend themselves from sex hungry men?

The lack of knowledge on 'how to treat women' is due to Pakistans backwards culture which doesnt teach men how to treat women with respect because the culture is based entirely on Islam, since it is a theocracy.

Literally everything that people such as yourself say to defend these countries and Islam proves you wrong every single time.


'Culture is based entirely on Islam'. For the love of God, please educate yourself. I would advice you to please refrain from acting like you know much about a country that you know so little about and clearly have very little awareness of.

With all due respect, people like you are probably the reason why we have prejudices and discrimination in society, because you simply believe everything the media tells you and use this to apparently form your own educated conclusions, and then you claim that someone who has knowledge, and experience of a country is wrong? Of course you know waay more about Pakistani society and religion than me with your knowledge from news headlines?

Fyi, Pakistan was never created to be a Muslim country - it has turned out to be one due to internal politics. Pakistan is not one culture but a blend of cultures and languages (like India). The one I particularly belong to (the South) is way more influenced by Hinduism than Islam and Christian and Hindus in South-Asian society are also pretty conservative.

India (as a majority Hindu state), where honour killings and women being burned alive, rapes and domestic abuse is common is a good example. Can you blame Islam for this too?

Crime and mistreatment of women is a result of flaws in society due to upbringing and the environment one is brought up in.


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Original post by Aladdinsaaane
You have basically just proved your own point wrong. So if this is due to lack fo education and people not knowing how to treat women, how come women in the west don't have to cover up in a working class town to defend themselves from sex hungry men?

The lack of knowledge on 'how to treat women' is due to Pakistans backwards culture which doesnt teach men how to treat women with respect because the culture is based entirely on Islam, since it is a theocracy.

Literally everything that people such as yourself say to defend these countries and Islam proves you wrong every single time.


I probably just wasted 5 minutes writing my previous message, because its a sad fact that people like you who have never been to a country, have not learned of its culture or society and simply judged it from the few people they see in their surroundings will carry on doings so.

This is why I try not to get into debates on here. CULTURE AND RELIGION ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS. Religion indeed influences culture, but not every wrong thing in society is bc of religion.

Take pre-Islam Arabia for example. Arab culture would treat women likes animals (much like Europe tbh where women couldnt vote or own property-this was a world wide problem). Parents would kill girls as soon as they were born.

In comparison, Islam GAVE women RIGHTs, its different that some Arab countries still stick to their culture and place horrific restrictions on women (blaming religion for it) - When did Islam say women cant drive or vote for example?

I could carry on, but Ive had experience with people acting like they know better than a person who has actually been and lived in different cultures and countries, so Im not wasting more or my and your time




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Original post by helloitsmee
'Culture is based entirely on Islam'. For the love of God, please educate yourself. I would advice you to please refrain from acting like you know much about a country that you know so little about and clearly have very little awareness of.

With all due respect, people like you are probably the reason why we have prejudices and discrimination in society, because you simply believe everything the media tells you and use this to apparently form your own educated conclusions, and then you claim that someone who has knowledge, and experience of a country is wrong? Of course you know waay more about Pakistani society and religion than me with your knowledge from news headlines?

Fyi, Pakistan was never created to be a Muslim country - it has turned out to be one due to internal politics. Pakistan is not one culture but a blend of cultures and languages (like India). The one I particularly belong to (the South) is way more influenced by Hinduism than Islam and Christian and Hindus in South-Asian society are also pretty conservative.

India (as a majority Hindu state), where honour killings and women being burned alive, rapes and domestic abuse is common is a good example. Can you blame Islam for this too?

Crime and mistreatment of women is a result of flaws in society due to upbringing and the environment one is brought up in.


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Western countries have an extremely high education rate in comparison to developing countries like India and Pakistan (which were the same country some decades ago btw). Quality of education and social benefits have revolutionised everything over centuries.

Sorry, I just had to point out.

I certainly don't mean to sound rude in my previous posts btw. It's just when you look at things from a perspective of awareness and experience, you can easily get frustrated over when other people use the little knowledge they have to form conclusions.

I, for one, would not choose to form conclusions about a culture/country I have never been to or know much about based on simply media headlines- this just creates unncessary prejudices and doesnt help anyone in society. I would advise you not to blame a religion and judge it in such a way without actually knowing the wider picture


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Original post by helloitsmee
'Culture is based entirely on Islam'. For the love of God, please educate yourself. I would advice you to please refrain from acting like you know much about a country that you know so little about and clearly have very little awareness of.

With all due respect, people like you are probably the reason why we have prejudices and discrimination in society, because you simply believe everything the media tells you and use this to apparently form your own educated conclusions, and then you claim that someone who has knowledge, and experience of a country is wrong? Of course you know waay more about Pakistani society and religion than me with your knowledge from news headlines?

Fyi, Pakistan was never created to be a Muslim country - it has turned out to be one due to internal politics. Pakistan is not one culture but a blend of cultures and languages (like India). The one I particularly belong to (the South) is way more influenced by Hinduism than Islam and Christian and Hindus in South-Asian society are also pretty conservative.

India (as a majority Hindu state), where honour killings and women being burned alive, rapes and domestic abuse is common is a good example. Can you blame Islam for this too?

Crime and mistreatment of women is a result of flaws in society due to upbringing and the environment one is brought up in.


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Dude u know nothing about your own country's history. The sole reason for the creation of Pakistan was Islam.

"As British rule there drew to an end, many Muslims demanded, in the name of Islam, the creation of a separate Pakistan state."

http://www.historytoday.com/ian-talbot/jinnah-and-making-pakistan

Have a look at the preamble of the Pakistani constitution

"Sovereignty over the entire Universe belongs to Almighty Allah alone"

https://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/quotes/constitution-of-pakistan-preamble

."Article 227 holds that all existing laws shall be brought in conformity with the injunctions of Islam as laid down in the Holy Quran and Sunnah […] and no law shall be enacted which is repugnant to such injunctions.
"
"Shari’a is also prevalent in Pakistan’s other legislative instruments as well: just look at the criminal code. This year(2014) , four people have been convicted of blasphemy and sentenced to death for insulting the Prophet Muhammad"

https://www.google.co.in/amp/foreignpolicy.com/2014/05/15/how-islamic-is-pakistans-constitution/amp/

"The President and Prime Minister of Pakistan can only be Muslim"

India is probably a heaven if compared to Pakistan

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Pakistan



A religion like Hinduism that has no problem with Homosexuality, Atheism, Agnostism, Sex etc, has room for all sorts of different ideas, thinkings and has no strict interpretation(100s of different interpretations aswell if i may add) cannot be compared to something like Islam

http://www.dailyo.in/politics/why-all-good-indians-must-embrace-their-homosexual-heritage/story/1/4704.html

http://atheism.wikia.com/wiki/Atheism_in_Hinduism

https://www.quora.com/Is-agnosticism-a-part-of-hinduism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama_Sutra


The more strict a religion , the more radicalised it tends to be. There is no strict interpretation of Hinduism unlike Islam

But obviously 500+ years of Islamic conquest , around 200 years of Victorian British rule and incorporation of victorian and islamic values did no good

Dont judge all of India on the basis of Delhi. And no women are not burned in even the most backward areas of India , rapes yes but people and their thinkings are changing/have changed, stricter laws being implemented rapidly after the 2012 nirbhaya case, domestic violence yes but it is not necessarily as common as you may think it it

The state in India where I'm from(Himachal Pradesh) has never had any such evils that u mentioned and women are not discriminated against at all probably because it was never under islamic rule and hence local customs have remained unchanged and the same like they were 2000 years ago, totally Vedic. Rapes are very rare and we have progressed and are progressing rapidly aswell


If you look at any other developing country these problems exist in plenty and not that Pakistan is a HR heaven.

It is legal to have 4 wives in Pakistan
for men and a lot of rapes and nasty stuff in equal proportions if not more than in India happens there aswell


India allows muslim men to have 4 wives aswell but it will soon change

http://m.hindustantimes.com/india-news/govt-imposing-single-ideology-in-uniform-civil-code-issue-muslim-law-board/story-yixTGpmXIEbTPeQvP6m6FN.html


Thankfully India is progressing and getting rid of them and many other problems

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Original post by Conceited
That's ironic.


I don't think it's surprising.
Tbh the whole reason that the middle east is so violent could have a lot to do with sexual repression and how hot it is there.Both things are likely to make people irritable.
Original post by Plantagenet Crown
If I remember correctly a while back someone posted a study showing it's also top for porn searches about sex with pigs and snakes..


Original post by markova21
How the hell does someone have sex with a snake? Unless they. Ooh.


But pigs...fair enough. For people who enjoy a good porking.
Original post by Plantagenet Crown
Yeah, I don't know how anyone in the world would be turned on by a regular snake :eek: :s-smilie: :lol:


Mamba Mia !!
Original post by Snowfall 7
Dude u know nothing about your own country's history. The sole reason for the creation of Pakistan was Islam.

"As British rule there drew to an end, many Muslims demanded, in the name of Islam, the creation of a separate Pakistan state."

http://www.historytoday.com/ian-talbot/jinnah-and-making-pakistan

Have a look at the preamble of the Pakistani constitution

"Sovereignty over the entire Universe belongs to Almighty Allah alone"

https://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/quotes/constitution-of-pakistan-preamble

."Article 227 holds that all existing laws shall be brought in conformity with the injunctions of Islam as laid down in the Holy Quran and Sunnah […] and no law shall be enacted which is repugnant to such injunctions.
"
"Shari’a is also prevalent in Pakistan’s other legislative instruments as well: just look at the criminal code. This year(2014) , four people have been convicted of blasphemy and sentenced to death for insulting the Prophet Muhammad"

https://www.google.co.in/amp/foreignpolicy.com/2014/05/15/how-islamic-is-pakistans-constitution/amp/

"The President and Prime Minister of Pakistan can only be Muslim"

India is probably a heaven if compared to Pakistan

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Pakistan



A religion like Hinduism that has no problem with Homosexuality, Atheism, Agnostism, Sex etc, has room for all sorts of different ideas, thinkings and has no strict interpretation(100s of different interpretations aswell if i may add) cannot be compared to something like Islam

http://www.dailyo.in/politics/why-all-good-indians-must-embrace-their-homosexual-heritage/story/1/4704.html

http://atheism.wikia.com/wiki/Atheism_in_Hinduism

https://www.quora.com/Is-agnosticism-a-part-of-hinduism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama_Sutra


The more strict a religion , the more radicalised it tends to be. There is no strict interpretation of Hinduism unlike Islam

But obviously 500+ years of Islamic conquest , around 200 years of Victorian British rule and incorporation of victorian and islamic values did no good

Dont judge all of India on the basis of Delhi. And no women are not burned in even the most backward areas of India , rapes yes but people and their thinkings are changing/have changed, stricter laws being implemented rapidly after the 2012 nirbhaya case, domestic violence yes but it is not necessarily as common as you may think it it

The state in India where I'm from(Himachal Pradesh) has never had any such evils that u mentioned and women are not discriminated against at all probably because it was never under islamic rule and hence local customs have remained unchanged and the same like they were 2000 years ago, totally Vedic. Rapes are very rare and we have progressed and are progressing rapidly aswell


If you look at any other developing country these problems exist in plenty and not that Pakistan is a HR heaven.

It is legal to have 4 wives in Pakistan
for men and a lot of rapes and nasty stuff in equal proportions if not more than in India happens there aswell


India allows muslim men to have 4 wives aswell but it will soon change

http://m.hindustantimes.com/india-news/govt-imposing-single-ideology-in-uniform-civil-code-issue-muslim-law-board/story-yixTGpmXIEbTPeQvP6m6FN.html


Thankfully India is progressing and getting rid of them and many other problems

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Read your first sentence, and here's my reply:

I fully agree that Pakistan is now an Islamic republic, but Jinnah (the founder) and the co-founding fathers of the country had dreamt of a secular state where Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs etc could all live in peace without the discrimination present throughout th sub continent at the time.

Ofc it didnt turn out like that, Jinnah was killed, and so many things changed and didnt go to plan - hence Pakistan's current situation.

To clarify, I NEVER said more bad things happen in India. To me, personally, there is not much difference between the two apart from a border drawn in (ofc media will brainwash both Indians and Pakistanis otherwise!!), e.g. im from Sindh and our roots and culture and history are pretty similar to Gujrat and Rajisthan bc before there was a border people would treat the region around Thar as the same piece of land (we have A LOT of Gujratis in Sindh even today - who knows I may have Gujrat roots too?)

India is progressing at a much much faster rate and no doubt equality will be possibly established and put into practise quicker.

Again, you're bringing religion into it despite my explanations previously. How old is Islam, do you realise? Around 1400 years. Are you telling me South Asian culture did not have flaws 1400 years ago? We were all perfect 1400 years ago? No gender discrimination, nothing? This cant be making sense to you.

Its actually so cool you're from Himachal Pradesh (this is off topic but omg fave place in India- heard so much about its beauty <3), but back to you cant be saying theres absolutely nothing wrong with the society in the province?

We have a similar situation in Gilgit-Baltistan to Himachal Pradesh from what youre suggesting, its the most educated region and quite pleasant. Probably cause their population is controlled unlike Punjab and Sindh, so they're easier to educate and society therefore progresses and develops in that region quicker.

I'm from the South of the country originally, and I can definitely say my culture is more influenced by Hinduism and us Sindhis are pretty proud of our roots and history! There's flaws and bad people who ruin things in every community but such a shame media and people will project these and stereotype billions of people bc of a few. I could go on but, really, arguing with people on tsr who dont seem to appreciate other peoples viewpoints just seems worthless now.

Nevertheless, nice hearing your viewpoint! I saw Himachal Pradesh in the film 'Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani' so pretty cool you're from there haha.




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Original post by Snowfall 7
Dude u know nothing about your own country's history. The sole reason for the creation of Pakistan was Islam.

"As British rule there drew to an end, many Muslims demanded, in the name of Islam, the creation of a separate Pakistan state."

http://www.historytoday.com/ian-talbot/jinnah-and-making-pakistan

Have a look at the preamble of the Pakistani constitution

"Sovereignty over the entire Universe belongs to Almighty Allah alone"

https://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/quotes/constitution-of-pakistan-preamble

."Article 227 holds that all existing laws shall be brought in conformity with the injunctions of Islam as laid down in the Holy Quran and Sunnah […] and no law shall be enacted which is repugnant to such injunctions.
"
"Shari’a is also prevalent in Pakistan’s other legislative instruments as well: just look at the criminal code. This year(2014) , four people have been convicted of blasphemy and sentenced to death for insulting the Prophet Muhammad"

https://www.google.co.in/amp/foreignpolicy.com/2014/05/15/how-islamic-is-pakistans-constitution/amp/

"The President and Prime Minister of Pakistan can only be Muslim"

India is probably a heaven if compared to Pakistan

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Pakistan



A religion like Hinduism that has no problem with Homosexuality, Atheism, Agnostism, Sex etc, has room for all sorts of different ideas, thinkings and has no strict interpretation(100s of different interpretations aswell if i may add) cannot be compared to something like Islam

http://www.dailyo.in/politics/why-all-good-indians-must-embrace-their-homosexual-heritage/story/1/4704.html

http://atheism.wikia.com/wiki/Atheism_in_Hinduism

https://www.quora.com/Is-agnosticism-a-part-of-hinduism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama_Sutra


The more strict a religion , the more radicalised it tends to be. There is no strict interpretation of Hinduism unlike Islam

But obviously 500+ years of Islamic conquest , around 200 years of Victorian British rule and incorporation of victorian and islamic values did no good

Dont judge all of India on the basis of Delhi. And no women are not burned in even the most backward areas of India , rapes yes but people and their thinkings are changing/have changed, stricter laws being implemented rapidly after the 2012 nirbhaya case, domestic violence yes but it is not necessarily as common as you may think it it

The state in India where I'm from(Himachal Pradesh) has never had any such evils that u mentioned and women are not discriminated against at all probably because it was never under islamic rule and hence local customs have remained unchanged and the same like they were 2000 years ago, totally Vedic. Rapes are very rare and we have progressed and are progressing rapidly aswell


If you look at any other developing country these problems exist in plenty and not that Pakistan is a HR heaven.

It is legal to have 4 wives in Pakistan
for men and a lot of rapes and nasty stuff in equal proportions if not more than in India happens there aswell


India allows muslim men to have 4 wives aswell but it will soon change

http://m.hindustantimes.com/india-news/govt-imposing-single-ideology-in-uniform-civil-code-issue-muslim-law-board/story-yixTGpmXIEbTPeQvP6m6FN.html


Thankfully India is progressing and getting rid of them and many other problems

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Just read the rest of your message, and dude I really cba but here's a little more:

Yes, what you said about the PM and President is unfortunate but hang on a minute are you telling me Muslims in India are not discriminated against? Theres flaws in every society! Yes, Pakistan isnt perfect but not many developing, overpopulated, uneducated countries are!

Are you SURE there are no extreme Hindus? Hmmm.. There's extreme versions of everything from feminism to Idk Harry Potter obsessions etc.. I dont want to comment on Hinduism without knowing the wider picture because it truly is a beautiful religion from what I have seen and hear, but there is perfection is nothing.

Your claims that all Hindus dont discriminate against women, etc is honestly definitely not something one would realistically believe in.

Nevertheless, thanks for sharing your perspective!




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@hamza772000




:innocent:
Two things are revealed by the fact that a person searches for "gay porn". The first is that he wants to see men having sex, the second that he has only limited English.

My search for "hot jocks go butt crazy" isn't captured by the crawler any more than is the bear's asking after "BBC Jamaica", and so Britons seem comparatively virtuous.
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Original post by helloitsmee

Take pre-Islam Arabia for example. Arab culture would treat women likes animals (much like Europe tbh where women couldnt vote or own property-this was a world wide problem). Parents would kill girls as soon as they were born.

In comparison, Islam GAVE women RIGHTs, its different that some Arab countries still stick to their culture and place horrific restrictions on women (blaming religion for it) - When did Islam say women cant drive or vote for example?


The first wife of Muhammad was a successful businesswoman. Women had rights before Islam. Stop spouting your nonsense.
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Original post by Plantagenet Crown
Maybe sucking on the snake's head? Its tongue would presumably tickle the back of your throat...:s-smilie: :dong: :nothing:


No, female snakes have vaginas believe it or not, well probably better described as a hole than a vagina.

The scenes aren't hard to find.
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Original post by helloitsmee
Jinnah was killed, and so many things changed
Jinnah was killed ?

yes, by tuberculosis and lung cancer

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