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MBBS or MBchB

VBK14

Is one better than the other? What difference does it make (if any?)

Reply 1

AEH

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Its a historical anomaly that different schools give their degrees different names, they were all standardised in content and status some time ago. I don't know what MBchB stands for but MBBS is Medicinae Bacchalurae, Bachelor of Surgery (Sp?) and some of the new schools have BMBS, which I'm sure you can work out. All it changes is the letters after your name.

Reply 2

Spencer Wells

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBBS#England

Reply 3

sunspoon

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as spencer wells' link says, the only difference it makes is that people can see where you graduated from.

eg at a glance if i saw someone with MA MB BChir after their name I would immediately be able to see that they went to Cambridge Med School.

(the MA is the preclinical medical sciences degree that all cambrdige grads get after completing preclinical studies. its actually a BSc, but for historical reasons its automatically upgraded to Masters after like three years. And its not MSc, similar reasons; something to do with 'Artisan' meaning 'of your trade' or something)

Reply 4

friendlyneutron

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sunspoon

(the MA is the preclinical medical sciences degree that all cambrdige grads get after completing preclinical studies. its actually a BSc, but for historical reasons its automatically upgraded to Masters after like three years. And its not MSc, similar reasons; something to do with 'Artisan' meaning 'of your trade' or something)

Not that it remotely matters, but it's actually a BA.

*awaiting incomming*

sunspoon

as spencer wells' link says, the only difference it makes is that people can see where you graduated from.

Does this mean some medical schools are better than others and the qualifications award are a code for this?! :eek:

<was that the sort of incoming you wanted, Renal? :wink:

This thread has been useful though - *corrects facebook educational info* :redface:

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Reply 7

lucho22

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sunspoon

(the MA is the preclinical medical sciences degree that all cambrdige grads get after completing preclinical studies. its actually a BSc, but for historical reasons its automatically upgraded to Masters after like three years. And its not MSc, similar reasons; something to do with 'Artisan' meaning 'of your trade' or something)

All first degrees at Cambridge are BA's with Honours - which 7 years after you first matriculate results in you being conferred an MA (Cantab) on paying an administrative fee.
It has nothing to do with "artisan" - it's simply that Science was considered a postgraduate degree at the universities of Oxford and Cambridge (as as well as at some of the ancient Scottish universities).

Reply 8

digitalis

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Or they just did a Masters before starting a medical degree? :wink:

Reply 9

Renal

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*cough*

Seen fluffy's business cards? :wink:

Reply 10

Elles

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Proper Oxbridge masters are usually M-something-more-specific-than-'A'*, where you don't need the (Oxon) or (Cantab) in brackets afterwards to show it's honourary.
*e.g. my significant other is the proud owner of an MChem, which trumps my future MA(Oxon) or Bs of Ch and M, damnit! :p:

Hmm, so I wonder whether a proper one should come after the bachelors level medical qualifications?

</pedant>

Reply 11

RetiredAccount89

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lucho22

All first degrees at Cambridge are BA's with Honours - which 7 years after you first matriculate results in you being conferred an MA (Cantab) on paying an administrative fee.
It has nothing to do with "artisan" - it's simply that Science was considered a postgraduate degree at the universities of Oxford and Cambridge (as as well as at some of the ancient Scottish universities).

It has nothing to do with "artisan" - it's simply that Science was considered a postgraduate degree at the universities of Oxford and Cambridge.

nonsence, the same upgrade from BA to MA occurs in all subjects at cambridge, not just science.
It was always touted that it was because they valued life experience/work experience type stuff.

In anycase, the Cambridge and Oxford medicine (MBBS vs MBChir, or MBChB etc) are blatantly better because they have more letters. :tongue:

Reply 12

RetiredAccount89

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Renal

*cough*

Seen fluffy's business cards? :wink:

Mine say Dr Jamie ***** BA (cantab) MBBS (lond)
I rule mostest.
(but will need to change them in 6 months to MA...

Reply 13

Renal

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PhD as well? Aren't you clever.

:smile:

Reply 14

kellywellydoodle

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Medicine_and_Surgery

:smile:

K xxx

Rtft!

Why do we bother, eh, Renal?

Sometimes I wonder.

lucho22

It has nothing to do with "artisan" - it's simply that Science was considered a postgraduate degree at the universities of Oxford and Cambridge (as as well as at some of the ancient Scottish universities).

Not true - it yelds back to the days when to graduate a full member of the university you were taught in the arts and the sciences, over a duration of 7 years... You are not a full member of either Oxford or Cambridge (as a bachelor) until after this 7 year mark, which is demarked by the upgrading of a bachelors degree to a masters degree.

People graduating with a masters or PhD/D.Phil are automatically full members.

Reply 19

Fluffy

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Jamie

In anycase, the Cambridge and Oxford medicine (MBBS vs MBChir, or MBChB etc) are blatantly better because they have more letters. :tongue:

Letters do mostly rock! That's partially why I thought an Oxford D.Phil was better than a Cambridge PhD* :wink:

Not actually true :p:

, and you get fecked over when you add the bracketed nonsence!