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1. It's just a bit of fun. Or basic epistimological doubt about a nebulous abstract concept with no real application to the real world.
2. (Original post by Wise One)
It's just a bit of fun. Or basic epistimological doubt about a nebulous abstract concept with no real application to the real world.
most things in this forum are like that
3. Nothing dosn't exist... work that out
4. (Original post by Invisible)
I agree completely with that, if it is infinite by definition it cannot exist; infinity is just a concept created by humans.
everything is just a concept created by humans ¬_¬ there is no such thing as gravity, it's something we created and called the effect gravity >_<
5. (Original post by operato)
everything is just a concept created by humans ¬_¬ there is no such thing as gravity, it's something we created and called the effect gravity >_<
the term we created yes, but a force that pulls things to masses does exist. There is a difference
6. is nothing an entity? What are laws of existence? Or are there any??? There must be acknowledgement of it - otherwise it doesnt exist, so since know what nothing means, it must therefore exist.
7. "OK...
Let a=1 and b=1
a²=b²
b²=ab
Subtract one from the other:
a²-b²=a²-ab
:. (a+b)(a-b)=a(a-b) [as a²-b²=(a+b)(a-b)]
Divide both sides by (a-b):
:. a+b=a
As a=1 and b=1
1+1=1
2=1
1=0
1x23=0x23
23=0
Therefore nothing is everything, as all is number!!
Woohoo!! Maths A-level!"

Yes, but you forgot that, in these circumstances Pi = 3.14159 and the square root of -1 doesn't exist.

(Basically I have no idea what you are talking about)
8. philosophy = mathematics = BS (where b= bull and s= ****)
9. Philosophy + Mathematics + Logic. Which, as long as you don't start using mathematical symbols is actually okay.
philosophy = mathematics = BS (where b= bull and s= ****)
Mathematics isnt logic per se.
11. i think the debate is more about the definition of the word existence then maths to be honest.
12. (Original post by Incomplete)
the term we created yes, but a force that pulls things to masses does exist. There is a difference
what is force? what is pull? what is mass? what is "exist"?

there are no substance to those words just something we put a name to, in what we see.
13. (Original post by PhilipsCDRW)
OK...
Let a=1 and b=1

Divide both sides by (a-b):
You can't devide by zero can you?
14. (Original post by Scottus_Mus)
You can't devide by zero can you?
15. (Original post by operato)
what is force? what is pull? what is mass? what is "exist"?

there are no substance to those words just something we put a name to, in what we see.
oh great so what does exist in your mind? anything? or is it all in the mind? that is one way at looking at things however its not a very useful way
16. (Original post by operato)
17. (Original post by operato)
what is force? what is pull? what is mass? what is "exist"?

there are no substance to those words just something we put a name to, in what we see.
force is something that acelerates a mass.
pull is a stupid word for "force attracting something towards something"
mass is the reason we need a force to change an object's velocity
"exist" is the claim that can be used on something real.

nothing doesn't exist, because nothing is nothing.
18. Energy cannot be destroyed, only transformed into another form.
19. (Original post by operato)
if nothing exists then it is infinite...
does infinite exist?
for nothing to exist it would have to be something and infinite would equal nothing if nothing existed.
you're objectifying nothing as something- therefore negating the idea of it being nothing. so no nothing doesn't exist. nothing is just the opposite of something, but this so called *nothing* is also *something*
20. (Original post by priya)
you're objectifying nothing as something- therefore negating the idea of it being nothing. so no nothing doesn't exist. nothing is just the opposite of something, but this so called *nothing* is also *something*
only in the english that it doesn't make sense... i think mathematics is better for something like this

force is something that acelerates a mass.
pull is a stupid word for "force attracting something towards something"
mass is the reason we need a force to change an object's velocity
"exist" is the claim that can be used on something real.
acceleration doesn't exist, another figment of our imagination. we put a name to something. everything we perceive is just from what we sense there's substance to the data we take in.

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