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Taking out negative factors

for example

2x(5x1)12+5x22(5x1)122x(5x-1)^{\frac{1}{2}} +\dfrac{5x^2}{2} (5x-1)^{-\frac{1}{2}}

how do i take out a factor of that (5x-1) what power of it do i take out?
Original post by will'o'wisp
for example

2x(5x1)12+5x22(5x1)122x(5x-1)^{\frac{1}{2}} +\dfrac{5x^2}{2} (5x-1)^{-\frac{1}{2}}

how do i take out a factor of that (5x-1) what power of it do i take out?


Depends what form you want it in

I'd take out the one to negative half
Reply 2
Original post by RDKGames
Depends what form you want it in

I'd take out the one to negative half


oh so how would i take out the negative half then?
Original post by will'o'wisp
oh so how would i take out the negative half then?


The second term already has it as part of the product so you can easily deal with that. Since the first term doesn't have it, you'd need to divide that term by the factor from which point you can simplify the bracket.
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Reply 4
Original post by RDKGames
The second term already has it as part of the product so you can easily deal with that. Since the first term doesn't have it, you'd need to multiply that term by the factor from which point you can simplify the bracket.


so for the left part of the (5x-1), if i take out the -0.5 i'll get (5x-1)^-1 ?
Original post by will'o'wisp
so for the left part of the (5x-1), if i take out the -0.5 i'll get (5x-1)^-1 ?


Sorry can you please word it using some correct terminology? I find it hard to understand what you're asking here... :s
Reply 6
Original post by RDKGames
Sorry can you please word it using some correct terminology? I find it hard to understand what you're asking here... :s


referring specifically to the stuff of the left side of the equation


2x(5x1)122x(5x-1)^{\frac{1}{2}}


(5x1)12(5x-1)^{-\frac{1}{2}} is taken out then with the stuff on the left am i left with 2x(5x1)12x(5x-1)^{-1}
Original post by will'o'wisp
referring specifically to the stuff of the left side of the equation


2x(5x1)122x(5x-1)^{\frac{1}{2}}


(5x1)12(5x-1)^{-\frac{1}{2}} is taken out then with the stuff on the left am i left with 2x(5x1)12x(5x-1)^{-1}


No you would be left with +1 as the exponent. You can easily check this yourself by expanding the brackets again and getting what you started with.
(edited 7 years ago)
Reply 8
Original post by RDKGames
No you would be left with +1 as the exponent. You can easily check this yourself by expanding the brackets again and getting what you started with.


ok thanks
Original post by will'o'wisp
oh so how would i take out the negative half then?


To take out a factor, you need to create that factor in each term if it is not currently present. For example, consider factorising a1/2a^{-1/2} as follows:

a+a12=ba12+1×a12=a12(b+1)a+a^{-\frac{1}{2}} = b a^{-\frac{1}{2}} + 1 \times a^{-\frac{1}{2}} = a^{-\frac{1}{2}}(b+1)

where we want ba12=ab=aa12=a32b a^{-\frac{1}{2}} = a \Rightarrow b = \frac{a}{a^{-\frac{1}{2}}} = a^{\frac{3}{2}}. So:

a+a12=a12(a32+1)a+a^{-\frac{1}{2}} = a^{-\frac{1}{2}}(a^\frac{3}{2}+1)

Or similarly and a bit quicker:

a2+a+1=a2+a1+a0=a2+12a12+a1+12a12+a0+12a12=a12(a52+a32+a12)a^2+a+1 = a^2+a^1+a^0 = \\ \\ a^{2+\frac{1}{2}}a^{-\frac{1}{2}} + a^{1+\frac{1}{2}}a^{-\frac{1}{2}} + a^{0+\frac{1}{2}}a^{-\frac{1}{2}} = a^{-\frac{1}{2}}(a^\frac{5}{2} +a^\frac{3}{2}+a^\frac{1}{2})
Original post by atsruser
To take out a factor, you need to create that factor in each term if it is not currently present. For example, consider factorising a1/2a^{-1/2} as follows:

a+a12=ba12+1×a12=a12(b+1)a+a^{-\frac{1}{2}} = b a^{-\frac{1}{2}} + 1 \times a^{-\frac{1}{2}} = a^{-\frac{1}{2}}(b+1)

where we want ba12=ab=aa12=a32b a^{-\frac{1}{2}} = a \Rightarrow b = \frac{a}{a^{-\frac{1}{2}}} = a^{\frac{3}{2}}. <---- I don't get this line
So:

a+a12=a12(a32+1)a+a^{-\frac{1}{2}} = a^{-\frac{1}{2}}(a^\frac{3}{2}+1)

Or similarly and a bit quicker:

a2+a+1=a2+a1+a0=a2+12a12+a1+12a12+a0+12a12=a12(a52+a32+a12)a^2+a+1 = a^2+a^1+a^0 = \\ \\ a^{2+\frac{1}{2}}a^{-\frac{1}{2}} + a^{1+\frac{1}{2}}a^{-\frac{1}{2}} + a^{0+\frac{1}{2}}a^{-\frac{1}{2}} = a^{-\frac{1}{2}}(a^\frac{5}{2} +a^\frac{3}{2}+a^\frac{1}{2})


^^ as shown above

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