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    Hey, is imperial.ac.uk working for anyone else?

    traceroute to imperial.ac.uk (155.198.5.83), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
    1 dhcp1.kurand.net (192.168.0.1) 3.357 ms 3.155 ms 3.182 ms
    2 10.151.232.1 (10.151.232.1) 12.371 ms 34.846 ms 27.640 ms
    3 rdng-t2cam1-b-ge94.inet.ntl.com (62.253.122.137) 13.527 ms 12.476 ms 12.114 ms
    4 winn-t3core-1b-ge-010-0.inet.ntl.com (195.182.176.153) 14.455 ms 11.462 ms 12.457 ms
    5 win-bb-b-so-130-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.175.33) 32.807 ms 22.893 ms 13.133 ms
    6 bir-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.141) 15.362 ms 16.318 ms 15.717 ms
    7 nth-bb-b-so-220-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.85) 20.401 ms 18.680 ms 18.344 ms
    8 tele-ic-1-as0-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.184.2) 19.794 ms 35.928 ms 19.155 ms
    9 212.250.14.34 (212.250.14.34) 20.120 ms 23.905 ms 19.524 ms
    10 po0-1.lond-sbr6.ja.net (146.97.35.233) 19.716 ms 19.548 ms 17.770 ms
    11 so-1-3-0.lond-sbr4.ja.net (146.97.33.9) 22.979 ms 19.282 ms 39.790 ms
    12 so-3-0-0.lond-sbr1.ja.net (146.97.33.153) 19.975 ms 20.068 ms 20.889 ms
    13 lmn-lmn1.site.ja.net (146.97.42.62) 29.641 ms 20.521 ms 20.040 ms
    14 po1-0.ic-gsr.lmn.net.uk (194.83.100.6) 36.000 ms 20.158 ms 21.962 ms
    15 194.83.100.166 (194.83.100.166) 19.377 ms 21.673 ms 23.330 ms
    16 ac-core-m7i-2.net.ic.ac.uk (194.82.153.6) 20.488 ms 20.412 ms 21.428 ms
    17 me-core-ac-core.net.ic.ac.uk (194.82.152.129) 19.872 ms 22.056 ms 22.968 ms
    18 * * *

    Looks to me like they've got internal network issues. Right as I was going to pay my accommodation prepayment.
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    Now fixed I think. Though traceroute's still not getting through.
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    wow you really do belong at Imperial.
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    (Original post by ashy)
    wow you really do belong at Imperial.
    Hahahah i know what you mean.
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    Works dandy for me.
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    (Original post by ashy)
    wow you really do belong at Imperial.
    lol thats the first thing i thought of
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    (Original post by Corun)
    Right as I was going to pay my accommodation prepayment.
    Should I be worried that I haven't received any accommodation correspondence yet?
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    (Original post by Azimuth)
    Should I be worried that I haven't received any accommodation correspondence yet?
    I haven't yet either.
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    Neither have I.

    they had internal issues this morning I was trying to access the department of computing website and it wouldn't load. I pinged and I had no response heh
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    I haven't received any post from accommodations or any email (though my email's been a bit broken recently so that means nothing), I just went to http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/residence...modation/offer and logged in and it said I had an offer. I think that they allocate the halls at different times (Not sure how that makes sense, but...). I noticed that some people from Beit and Southside have found out. Haven't noticed any from any other halls (check the accommodation questions thread). Either way, make sure you login at the address above and see if you have an offer. You never know, the email might not have got through, or maybe they're waiting to send the emails or something. Login, take a look!

    I think it said my offer for a place at Southside was only valid until the 6th September. So, if you don't have an offer by the 4th (gives time for payment to go through etc), I'd phone em up. See what's going on.

    You guys seem to be surprised at my "traceroute". Here's a slight explanation:

    Here's an extract:

    14 po1-0.ic-gsr.lmn.net.uk (194.83.100.6) 36.000 ms 20.158 ms 21.962 ms
    15 194.83.100.166 (194.83.100.166) 19.377 ms 21.673 ms 23.330 ms
    16 ac-core-m7i-2.net.ic.ac.uk (194.82.153.6) 20.488 ms 20.412 ms 21.428 ms
    17 me-core-ac-core.net.ic.ac.uk (194.82.152.129) 19.872 ms 22.056 ms 22.968 ms
    Each line corresponds to one computer. When you try to access, say, a webpage, your computer sends and receives a signal that goes through lots of other computers. A traceroute gives you the IP address (Essentially a unique ID for computers on a network) and name of each computer that the signal from the website goes through. The first column after the number gives the name and then the IP address is in brackets. So, the 14th computer the signal goes through, as you can see from above, has the name "po1-0.ic-gsr.lmn.net.uk". Now, lmn.net.uk is the ISP that imperial use, so it's not surprising that the signal has to go through lmn's computers. If you look at number 16, you'll see it has the name "ac-core-m7i-2.net.ic.ac.uk". "ic.ac.uk" is Imperial college network, so you can tell from this that signal has to go through 15 other computers before it gets to inside Imperial's network (from my house).

    The final line:

    18 * * *
    The *s mean that traceroute could not contact the 18th computer. This probably indicated that you won't be able to use the website because the 18th computer isn't working so it can't a signal through it and because the 18th one is inside imperial's network, it makes it likely to be a fault with imperial's network.

    traceroute is useful for finding out whether a website is not accessible due to a fault of your ISP or due to a fault of the website. If the traceroute says that the signal has gone through all the computers with your ISP's name in it, then it's not your ISPs fault. So, above, I know it's not my ISP's (NTL) fault after the signal gets through computer number 9 because the computers stop having NTL in their name.

    To do a traceroute, see this page: http://kb.iu.edu/data/aihy.html
    The format on windows may be different to mine, but it should be similar enough for you to work it out. It's quite amazing how many computers a signal goes through just to get to website's that you visit all the time.

    If you're still interested, wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traceroute

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    Just found on the CSG page ( http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/csg/ ):

    Fri Aug 31 21:22: Web servers restarted, mailservers fixed

    mwj
    Both Departmental webservers (linnet and tweetypie) were restarted after they exhausted both network stack space and delayed mount limits, and both IMAP servers (imap and imap2, chaffinch and fulmar) were not allowing new users to connect, as a knock-on effect from the continuing outage of kestrel and osprey. CSG is working on transferring data from these two servers to the other two home directory servers, stork and crane, over this weekend. The manufacturer of the RAID controller is currently investigating the failure.
    That explains it

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    I checked several times there as well. Nothing. All it says that is that my application is complete stating my choices in order of preference and when the application was received.
    Yea I did also notice that most people got their offers for Beit and Southside. Some also got for Wilson House, Orient, Garden and one for Pembridge
    No sign for Piccadilly Court, Willis Jackson, Southwell, Holbein. I think they send the emails in batches. I dont know if ur surname plays any significant role, or maybe the day they received the application, or even maybe the order of preference. I dunno, maybe they just finish hall by hall. I really don't know what's going on. And I also don't understand why imperial is taking so long to reply for accommodation.Some of my friends (non-imperial students) have known for ages now!
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    Its not that we dont know what traceroute is or what it does, its that you actually cared enough about the website to investigate the problem

    Either way I think everyone at imp is a bit like that
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    (Original post by Corun)
    Hey, is imperial.ac.uk working for anyone else?

    traceroute to imperial.ac.uk (155.198.5.83), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
    1 dhcp1.kurand.net (192.168.0.1) 3.357 ms 3.155 ms 3.182 ms
    2 10.151.232.1 (10.151.232.1) 12.371 ms 34.846 ms 27.640 ms
    3 rdng-t2cam1-b-ge94.inet.ntl.com (62.253.122.137) 13.527 ms 12.476 ms 12.114 ms
    4 winn-t3core-1b-ge-010-0.inet.ntl.com (195.182.176.153) 14.455 ms 11.462 ms 12.457 ms
    5 win-bb-b-so-130-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.175.33) 32.807 ms 22.893 ms 13.133 ms
    6 bir-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.141) 15.362 ms 16.318 ms 15.717 ms
    7 nth-bb-b-so-220-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.85) 20.401 ms 18.680 ms 18.344 ms
    8 tele-ic-1-as0-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.184.2) 19.794 ms 35.928 ms 19.155 ms
    9 212.250.14.34 (212.250.14.34) 20.120 ms 23.905 ms 19.524 ms
    10 po0-1.lond-sbr6.ja.net (146.97.35.233) 19.716 ms 19.548 ms 17.770 ms
    11 so-1-3-0.lond-sbr4.ja.net (146.97.33.9) 22.979 ms 19.282 ms 39.790 ms
    12 so-3-0-0.lond-sbr1.ja.net (146.97.33.153) 19.975 ms 20.068 ms 20.889 ms
    13 lmn-lmn1.site.ja.net (146.97.42.62) 29.641 ms 20.521 ms 20.040 ms
    14 po1-0.ic-gsr.lmn.net.uk (194.83.100.6) 36.000 ms 20.158 ms 21.962 ms
    15 194.83.100.166 (194.83.100.166) 19.377 ms 21.673 ms 23.330 ms
    16 ac-core-m7i-2.net.ic.ac.uk (194.82.153.6) 20.488 ms 20.412 ms 21.428 ms
    17 me-core-ac-core.net.ic.ac.uk (194.82.152.129) 19.872 ms 22.056 ms 22.968 ms
    18 * * *

    Looks to me like they've got internal network issues. Right as I was going to pay my accommodation prepayment.
    Deary me. Have you never experienced a website being down. It really didn't warrant making a thread about a temporary hitch in the service. I wonder what's next.
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    (Original post by tuppatopbrer)
    Deary me. Have you never experienced a website being down. It really didn't warrant making a thread about a temporary hitch in the service. I wonder what's next.
    Except that I really needed to pay the accommodation pre payment fee today as I have little time to do it for the next few days. I wanted to make sure it wasn't working for everyone else too, so that I knew there was nothing I was doing wrong on my end.

    Also, yeah I've experienced websites going down. But, I wouldn't expect a fairly big and major website like Imperial's to go down, especially during a period where people are likely to be doing their accommodation stuff. And, of course, I didn't know how temporary the hitch was at the time, did I? :-)

    Next time I'll make a graph of imperial.ac.uk's ping time ;-)
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    So google is not a big website, thought that suffered quite a lengthy downtime earlier this year?
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    (Original post by Corun)
    I haven't received any post from accommodations or any email (though my email's been a bit broken recently so that means nothing), I just went to http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/residence...modation/offer and logged in and it said I had an offer. I think that they allocate the halls at different times (Not sure how that makes sense, but...). I noticed that some people from Beit and Southside have found out. Haven't noticed any from any other halls (check the accommodation questions thread). Either way, make sure you login at the address above and see if you have an offer. You never know, the email might not have got through, or maybe they're waiting to send the emails or something. Login, take a look!

    I think it said my offer for a place at Southside was only valid until the 6th September. So, if you don't have an offer by the 4th (gives time for payment to go through etc), I'd phone em up. See what's going on.

    You guys seem to be surprised at my "traceroute". Here's a slight explanation:

    Here's an extract:



    Each line corresponds to one computer. When you try to access, say, a webpage, your computer sends and receives a signal that goes through lots of other computers. A traceroute gives you the IP address (Essentially a unique ID for computers on a network) and name of each computer that the signal from the website goes through. The first column after the number gives the name and then the IP address is in brackets. So, the 14th computer the signal goes through, as you can see from above, has the name "po1-0.ic-gsr.lmn.net.uk". Now, lmn.net.uk is the ISP that imperial use, so it's not surprising that the signal has to go through lmn's computers. If you look at number 16, you'll see it has the name "ac-core-m7i-2.net.ic.ac.uk". "ic.ac.uk" is Imperial college network, so you can tell from this that signal has to go through 15 other computers before it gets to inside Imperial's network (from my house).

    The final line:



    The *s mean that traceroute could not contact the 18th computer. This probably indicated that you won't be able to use the website because the 18th computer isn't working so it can't a signal through it and because the 18th one is inside imperial's network, it makes it likely to be a fault with imperial's network.

    traceroute is useful for finding out whether a website is not accessible due to a fault of your ISP or due to a fault of the website. If the traceroute says that the signal has gone through all the computers with your ISP's name in it, then it's not your ISPs fault. So, above, I know it's not my ISP's (NTL) fault after the signal gets through computer number 9 because the computers stop having NTL in their name.

    To do a traceroute, see this page: http://kb.iu.edu/data/aihy.html
    The format on windows may be different to mine, but it should be similar enough for you to work it out. It's quite amazing how many computers a signal goes through just to get to website's that you visit all the time.

    If you're still interested, wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traceroute

    [Edit]

    Just found on the CSG page ( http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/csg/ ):



    That explains it

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    If I were to take one guess what subject you're doing, would I be right? :p:
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    hehehe lol computers i guess?
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    (Original post by tuppatopbrer)
    So google is not a big website, thought that suffered quite a lengthy downtime earlier this year?
    Oh, I forgot about that. Though, I probably made a thread about that, too (on some other forum). :-)
 
 
 
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