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Are there substantially more graduates in the UK than the number of graduate jobs available? Why are the government and people in education convincing young people to go to university if they end up doing a non-graduate job but being burdened with huge student debt?
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Yes, unfortunately. You can blame Blair and the Labour Party for that. Their "Education, Education, Education" nonsense and ridiculous target of aiming for 50% of young people to attend university has led to an over-saturation of graduates and not enough jobs for them all. Also it has led to more 18 year olds being forced to go to university when they would be more suited to an apprenticeship.
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Are there substantially more graduates in the UK than the number of graduate jobs available? Why are the government and people in education convincing young people to go to university if they end up doing a non-graduate job but being burdened with huge student debt?
Are there substantially more graduates in the UK than the number of graduate jobs available? Why are the government and people in education convincing young people to go to university if they end up doing a non-graduate job but being burdened with huge student debt?
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It depends on what you define as a graduate job. I think the term has become quite skewed these days. There are many jobs that don't technically require a degree to do it, but the employer markets it as a graduate job or does not require a degree but prefers one. I've seen admin jobs where the main responsibilities were filing and photocopying saying they would be ideal for a recent graduate. But I guess this still relates to your point that with so many graduates even these jobs are being allowed to advertise for graduates when they are much more suitable for school leavers. In other cases, the entry job does not require a degree but the degree will help you move up in the company so employers will have a preference for graduates or certain degrees as they know these people can more likely progress in their team and develop a better career there.
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It depends on what you define as a graduate job. I think the term has become quite skewed these days. There are many jobs that don't technically require a degree to do it, but the employer markets it as a graduate job or does not require a degree but prefers one. I've seen admin jobs where the main responsibilities were filing and photocopying saying they would be ideal for a recent graduate. But I guess this still relates to your point that with so many graduates even these jobs are being allowed to advertise for graduates when they are much more suitable for school leavers. In other cases, the entry job does not require a degree but the degree will help you move up in the company so employers will have a preference for graduates or certain degrees as they know these people can more likely progress in their team and develop a better career there.
It depends on what you define as a graduate job. I think the term has become quite skewed these days. There are many jobs that don't technically require a degree to do it, but the employer markets it as a graduate job or does not require a degree but prefers one. I've seen admin jobs where the main responsibilities were filing and photocopying saying they would be ideal for a recent graduate. But I guess this still relates to your point that with so many graduates even these jobs are being allowed to advertise for graduates when they are much more suitable for school leavers. In other cases, the entry job does not require a degree but the degree will help you move up in the company so employers will have a preference for graduates or certain degrees as they know these people can more likely progress in their team and develop a better career there.
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Yes exactly, too many graduates mean that traditional non-graduate jobs now require a degree i.e. apparently to become a police officer now you will need a degree.
Yes exactly, too many graduates mean that traditional non-graduate jobs now require a degree i.e. apparently to become a police officer now you will need a degree.
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That is false. My sister is applying to be a Police Constable with county police force and she hasn't been to University and I don't believe any specific qualifications are required, more personal qualities.
That is false. My sister is applying to be a Police Constable with county police force and she hasn't been to University and I don't believe any specific qualifications are required, more personal qualities.
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"Prospective officers can either complete a three-year "degree apprenticeship", a postgraduate conversion course or a degree".
- A three-year police constable degree apprenticeship paid for by the force, allowing individuals to "earn while they learn" - spending 80% of their time on the frontline, and the rest completing their degree while receiving a salary
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"All new police officers in England and Wales will have to be educated to degree level from 2020, the College of Policing has announced."
"All new police officers in England and Wales will have to be educated to degree level from 2020, the College of Policing has announced."
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"All new police officers in England and Wales will have to be educated to degree level from 2020, the College of Policing has announced."
"Prospective officers can either complete a three-year "degree apprenticeship", a postgraduate conversion course or a degree".
"All new police officers in England and Wales will have to be educated to degree level from 2020, the College of Policing has announced."
"Prospective officers can either complete a three-year "degree apprenticeship", a postgraduate conversion course or a degree".
- A three-year police constable degree apprenticeship paid for by the force, allowing individuals to "earn while they learn" - spending 80% of their time on the frontline, and the rest completing their degree while receiving a salary
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I've noticed that 95% of the people who complain about there being too many people at university/university isn't worth it any more, either went to university themselves, are at university, or are intending to go to university. Or if they have kids, they intend their kids to go to university.
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The discussion of the supply of graduates being exponentially higher than the number of jobs available ignores the crucial factor of value. The value of a degree is different for each individual; for some, reading Classics, for example, yields more worth then, say, Engineering which is probably one of the highest paying graduate jobs on the market.
In my opinion the discussion should focus more on the extent to which funding for a degree should be provided.
In my opinion the discussion should focus more on the extent to which funding for a degree should be provided.
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On the one hand the government say we need immigration to fill job vacancies, yet on the other people are saying there's no jobs for graduates.
This is why I voted leave and would vote TRUMP.
This is why I voted leave and would vote TRUMP.
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On the one hand the government say we need immigration to fill job vacancies, yet on the other people are saying there's no jobs for graduates.
This is why I voted leave and would vote TRUMP.
On the one hand the government say we need immigration to fill job vacancies, yet on the other people are saying there's no jobs for graduates.
This is why I voted leave and would vote TRUMP.
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Too many farms too! And too many women getting degrees that go on to be housewives and leave potential jobs that would otherwise boots the eeconomy 
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(Original post by JohnGreek)
To be fair, you do need to distinguish between those doing a degree which leads to a variety of established career paths at a good uni, and the "BSc in Mickey Mouse" people at the University of Hertfordshire
To be fair, you do need to distinguish between those doing a degree which leads to a variety of established career paths at a good uni, and the "BSc in Mickey Mouse" people at the University of Hertfordshire
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