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    Hi everyone!

    So today I went looking for work experience at a local GP for 2 days over the mid term. Of my three local GP surgeries , two categorically said they don't take students for work experience, and the other surgeries' receptionist said she wasn't sure, and would contact me tomorrow.

    The thing is I know one of the surgeries who said no have took students before, I don't know whether I said something wrong but they seemed quite hesitant and perhaps even slightly angry that I had the audacity to ask.
    What should I do as I need experience in a GP setting.
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    (Original post by Marcus2016)
    Hi everyone!

    So today I went looking for work experience at a local GP for 2 days over the mid term. Of my three local GP surgeries , two categorically said they don't take students for work experience, and the other surgeries' receptionist said she wasn't sure, and would contact me tomorrow.

    The thing is I know one of the surgeries who said no have took students before, I don't know whether I said something wrong but they seemed quite hesitant and perhaps even slightly angry that I had the audacity to ask.
    What should I do as I need experience in a GP setting.
    Out of interest, why do you have to have GP experience?

    I have found from personal experience that getting shadowing experience in a GP surgery is notoriously difficult and due to patient confidentiality, GP's are hesitant to offer such experience. Do you know the circumstances of the students who successfully gained experience? Could they have been related to or friends of staff within the surgery? I only ask to clarify whether you are on an equal plane to them. I seriously doubt you said or did anything wrong though. Fair play to you for at least asking!
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    (Original post by Mightybadger16)
    Out of interest, why do you have to have GP experience?

    I have found from personal experience that getting shadowing experience in a GP surgery is notoriously difficult and due to patient confidentiality, GP's are hesitant to offer such experience. Do you know the circumstances of the students who successfully gained experience? Could they have been related to or friends of staff within the surgery? I only ask to clarify whether you are on an equal plane to them. I seriously doubt you said or did anything wrong though. Fair play to you for at least asking!
    My school has organised a three day placement for me at a hospital, 1 1/2 days shadowing different doctors and 1 1/2 days in the lecture rooms to experience a day in the life of a medical student.
    The reason I would like a GP placement is that my careers teacher said it is advisable to have a wide breadth of experience from different areas of medicine.

    As for the other students I am not sure of their circumstances, but I have often seen students in the clinic when going to my own appointments.
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    (Original post by Marcus2016)
    My school has organised a three day placement for me at a hospital, 1 1/2 days shadowing different doctors and 1 1/2 days in the lecture rooms to experience a day in the life of a medical student.
    The reason I would like a GP placement is that my careers teacher said it is advisable to have a wide breadth of experience from different areas of medicine.

    As for the other students I am not sure of their circumstances, but I have often seen students in the clinic when going to my own appointments.
    I can understand that. Obviously I am advising you to give up trying, I am just saying don't be surprised if its unsuccessful. The proportion of medical applicants won't have GP experience and that isn't a problem. Medical schools understand that its difficult!

    I would recommend just getting as much experience as possible regardless of where it is. Whether its some volunteering at a hospital or care home or even something like working in a charity shop, medical schools will really appreciate the effort you've put in even if its not necessarily clinical.
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    (Original post by Mightybadger16)
    I can understand that. Obviously I am advising you to give up trying, I am just saying don't be surprised if its unsuccessful. The proportion of medical applicants won't have GP experience and that isn't a problem. Medical schools understand that its difficult!

    I would recommend just getting as much experience as possible regardless of where it is. Whether its some volunteering at a hospital or care home or even something like working in a charity shop, medical schools will really appreciate the effort you've put in even if its not necessarily clinical.
    Thanks for the advice,
    Yes I am inclined to agree with you, I want to be an oncologist ( this could change ) and I don't see how a GP would benefit me.
    Would my 3 day hospital placement, and volunteering in a hospital ward suffice?
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    (Original post by Marcus2016)
    Hi everyone!

    So today I went looking for work experience at a local GP for 2 days over the mid term. Of my three local GP surgeries , two categorically said they don't take students for work experience, and the other surgeries' receptionist said she wasn't sure, and would contact me tomorrow.

    The thing is I know one of the surgeries who said no have took students before, I don't know whether I said something wrong but they seemed quite hesitant and perhaps even slightly angry that I had the audacity to ask.
    What should I do as I need experience in a GP setting.
    call them up on it

    say it is discrimination to refuse you without proper cause

    That's how I got my WE...
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    (Original post by Marcus2016)
    Hi everyone!

    So today I went looking for work experience at a local GP for 2 days over the mid term. Of my three local GP surgeries , two categorically said they don't take students for work experience, and the other surgeries' receptionist said she wasn't sure, and would contact me tomorrow.

    The thing is I know one of the surgeries who said no have took students before, I don't know whether I said something wrong but they seemed quite hesitant and perhaps even slightly angry that I had the audacity to ask.
    What should I do as I need experience in a GP setting.
    GP work experience is useful in helping to decide whether becoming a GP is a path you want to go down in the future. Even if you categorically do not want to become a GP, I suspect it is useful to reflect upon within a personal statement.

    Try phoning the GPs Practise, but don't immediately say why you are calling, rather ask to speak to the practise manager. When talking to them, ask them about work experience, as your are much more likely to get a response, with many secretary just saying no due to convention, as I found out the hard way looking for work experience myself over christmas.
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    (Original post by Marcus2016)
    Thanks for the advice,
    Yes I am inclined to agree with you, I want to be an oncologist ( this could change ) and I don't see how a GP would benefit me.
    Would my 3 day hospital placement, and volunteering in a hospital ward suffice?
    Obviously GP will benefit you as much as being on a hospital placement.

    From watching doctors work for 3 years, to being a medical student for 5-6 years you still won't have any real understanding of what the actual job of being a junior doctor, let alone an oncologist, is like. So you will not have a clue what you really want to do in the first place. Then don't forget that as a student and possibly as doctor long before you get to do oncology you will have to work in GP surgeries so you it's useful to know what you're getting in to.

    Before you start your oncology training (which will only happen after 5 years medical school and at least 4 years of being a doctor, so in almost ten years time!!!!) you need to have done a wide range of medical specialities in the hospital and in the community. You need to be a safe medical practitioner long before you can begin to specialise - oncologists treat all sorts of general medical problems in hospital - they don't just sit in clinic dolling out chemo.

    Never mind the amount of oncology work that comes in to every GP practice that would be of direct benefit to you. GPs have to deal will diagnosing cancers, breaking bad news, 2 week referrals, side effects both short and long term of chemotherapy and surgery, and with palliation of these parents.

    And finally, since as an oncologist you are constantly speaking with GPs it is pretty useful if you understand their working pressures, and the reasons they have for sending patients in.

    Basically, drop the short sighted attitude and you'll go far! If you go into an interview (medical school interview, core/speciality training interview) and say 'GP won't benefit me, I want to do XYZ' you'll rightly get ripped a new one.



    BTW that's not to say you HAVE to do GP WE. It's all pretty meaningless anyway - I often have WE people shadow me in A&E and what do they learn really? nothing, to be honest. It's all so far removed from their understanding. But that's not the point of work experience - the effort of getting that work experience and of reflecting on it in some way or other is what universities want. They don't realistically expect you to have learnt medicine, or to have in any way really have informed the decisions you will be making in 10 years time. Just get what you can and think you'll enjoy.
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    (Original post by Marcus2016)
    Hi everyone!

    So today I went looking for work experience at a local GP for 2 days over the mid term. Of my three local GP surgeries , two categorically said they don't take students for work experience, and the other surgeries' receptionist said she wasn't sure, and would contact me tomorrow.

    The thing is I know one of the surgeries who said no have took students before, I don't know whether I said something wrong but they seemed quite hesitant and perhaps even slightly angry that I had the audacity to ask.
    What should I do as I need experience in a GP setting.
    You'll find that a lot of GP surgeries won't take local students because there is a greater chance of knowing the people that are visiting the GP. This is what I was told last year. Some people can get into the surgery because they might not be local, or they might know one of the GPs.

    I had to go to a GP surgery that wasn't local at all. Best to try somewhere a little further from you if you're really wanting the experience.
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    Lots of TSR advice about applying for Medicine - including how to get work experience : https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wiki/Medicine
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    Hi guys I am really grateful for everyone's input, has given me a lot to think about! So if I can't get work experience at a GP, what would you advise me to do for my 2 days. Note that I already have one weeks work experience at a local pharmacist under my belt, I am also due a 3 day placement shadowing doctors at a hospital in Belfast; I will begin volunteering in my local hospital in good time.

    Thanks again
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    Literally anything that you can think of related to medicine (or at least people-facing) would be great! I went to a coroner for work experience, found out how they worked and watched an autopsy. You can get in touch with local care homes as well - they are fantastic experience and I'm sure would love someone helping out for a couple of days.
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    You can get in touch with local care homes as well - they are fantastic experience and I'm sure would love someone helping out for a couple of days.
    They'll be far more interested in a longer term commitment - and so will Medical Schools. 'I volunteered every Saturday for 6 months, and after getting to know patients well I began to understand the realities of dementia / end-of-life care' will always look better than 'I got in the way for 3 days'.
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    They'll be far more interested in a longer term commitment - and so will Medical Schools. 'I volunteered every Saturday for 6 months, and after getting to know patients well I began to understand the realities of dementia / end-of-life care' will always look better than 'I got in the way for 3 days'.
    Well yes, of course, but the OP was saying that they needed to fill a couple of days.
 
 
 
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