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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    you realise that those that insist that the traditional dictionary definition of "feminism" still applying are those that are severely out of touch with the feminist movement or running damage control for the fact that most feminists now are actually against equality? do you understand that the descriptions of words change over time based on their reception? does the word "liberal" mean what it once did 200 years ago? does the word "nice" mean "silly" even though that was the meaning of that word hundreds and hundreds of years ago in the english language? so if you saw a person calling a "pleasant" person "nice" would you give them a bloody good lecturing about how rude they've been? no? so why would you do it here when the word "feminism", descriptively (not prescriptively) means "a movement whereby women try and degrade men and blame them for any kind of short coming of women"? that's literally what it is. they don't want equality or else why do they never stand up for *any* innocent men? they will defend women who falsely accuse men of rape and base it on things like "oh she was clearly mentally sick" while the man wouldn't even be morally relevant to them. "equality" my ****ing ass
    Completely agree with you. Nothing to do with this.
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    you realise that those that insist that the traditional dictionary definition of "feminism" still applying are those that are severely out of touch with the feminist movement or running damage control for the fact that most feminists now are actually against equality? do you understand that the descriptions of words change over time based on their reception? does the word "liberal" mean what it once did 200 years ago? does the word "nice" mean "silly" even though that was the meaning of that word hundreds and hundreds of years ago in the english language? so if you saw a person calling a "pleasant" person "nice" would you give them a bloody good lecturing about how rude they've been? no? so why would you do it here when the word "feminism", descriptively (not prescriptively) means "a movement whereby women try and degrade men and blame them for any kind of short coming of women"? that's literally what it is. they don't want equality or else why do they never stand up for *any* innocent men? they will defend women who falsely accuse men of rape and base it on things like "oh she was clearly mentally sick" while the man wouldn't even be morally relevant to them. "equality" my ****ing ass
    For some reason I'd know that this would be you, before I'd even clicked on the notification.

    Not everyone. Plus, do you know every feminist?
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    I'll put my maiden name as my middle name (I don't have one) or have it double barrelled
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    I m taking my fiancés as I d like us to all have the same name as a family and after giving myself an awkward double barrell surname 5 years ago, understandably my fiancé doesn't want to take mine (we discussed it but it just wouldn't sound right as a name for him but his surname will work really well with mine) and having his easily spellable name will make my life much easier.
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    Take your partners name and they take yours? Double barrel surname
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    (Original post by Nirvana1989-1994)
    For some reason I'd know that this would be you, before I'd even clicked on the notification.
    wow I'm famous

    Not everyone. Plus, do you know every feminist?
    is it about "every" feminist or "most" feminists? do we define a movement based on the majority or the minority, generally? would we say that most christians believe in the divinity of jesus? there are literally some christians who don't interpret the bible that way but still believe in the new and old testaments alongside their own constructions of jesus - does that mean we cannot possibly generalise christians as people who believe that jesus was divine as contrasting with other religions like islam and judaism that might recognise jesus but not see him as holy? this is the approach you're taking with feminism - you're saying basically that due to the massive minority of "feminists" that happen to both call themselves feminist yet don't believe in what the majority of "feminists" believe, this means that the whole idea of "feminism" must therefore *generally* be nebulous, even though it's crystal clear that MOST feminists are the academic epitome of misandry. this is why about 90% of british women believe in gender equality yet only about 15-20% of them call themselves "feminists" - they KNOW the difference between feminism and equality, clearly! just like people know the difference between legal equality and socialism
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    (Original post by Spock's Socks)
    I'm getting married in July and I'm keeping my maiden name but adding my partner's name to make my surname double barrelled. I was never really keen on double barrelled names but I am really close to my grandpa and he's been my dad pretty much all my life and I am the last 'kid' left in my family with the name since my mum is now married and has a new surname and I'm an only child so I wanted to keep my original surname for homage to my grandpa but also take my partner's name and I feel like by taking both names, I am still remaining a part of my birth family yet also gaining in a place in a few family.

    There's no right or wrong thing to do when it comes to changing your name when you ger married, I personally believe it should be up to the person who intends to change their name or not, which is usually the woman (when it comes to heterosexual relationships at least) and they should never be pressurised into taking a name if they don't want to. My partner was ok with me changing my name or not, he wasn't fussed either way.
    My partner says its me 'mugging him off'. He sees it as me becoming part of his family however I already am matching surname or not.
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    (Original post by TurtleCub)
    Take your partners name and they take yours? Double barrel surname
    Not an option on his end. He wont double barrel his surname as he doesn't think he should have to but thats exactly my point
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    Probably not tbh.
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    (Original post by RossB1702)
    You don't need to lose your last name. Could you not just hyphenate and combine them both ?
    he wouldn't agree with that unfortunately
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    wow I'm famous



    is it about "every" feminist or "most" feminists? do we define a movement based on the majority or the minority, generally? would we say that most christians believe in the divinity of jesus? there are literally some christians who don't interpret the bible that way but still believe in the new and old testaments alongside their own constructions of jesus - does that mean we cannot possibly generalise christians as people who believe that jesus was divine as contrasting with other religions like islam and judaism that might recognise jesus but not see him as holy? this is the approach you're taking with feminism - you're saying basically that due to the massive minority of "feminists" that happen to both call themselves feminist yet don't believe in what the majority of "feminists" believe, this means that the whole idea of "feminism" must therefore *generally* be nebulous, even though it's crystal clear that MOST feminists are the academic epitome of misandry
    Is making generalisations a good thing?

    I'm just wondering where you get your information that *most* feminists do not care for equal rights.

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    Well it's called a maiden name for a reason.
    The surname that a married woman used before she was married
    It would bind you into a family unit and make it easier to know what to write on the birth certificates if you ever have children.
    From a religious point of view (just putting it out there), when you marry someone you become one flesh so I guess it would be customary.
    You could always do both.
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    (Original post by Nirvana1989-1994)
    'I'm anything but a feminist' an idiot then?
    Are you calling OP an idiot because she chooses not to associate herself with a group of fat ugly women who belittle others for not agreeing with their ideas?

    The micro aggressions that feminists like you display against beautiful women comes out of your self loathing and jealous nature.
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    you realise that those that insist that the traditional dictionary definition of "feminism" still applying are those that are severely out of touch with the feminist movement or running damage control for the fact that most feminists now are actually against equality? do you understand that the descriptions of words change over time based on their reception? does the word "liberal" mean what it once did 200 years ago? does the word "nice" mean "silly" even though that was the meaning of that word hundreds and hundreds of years ago in the english language? so if you saw a person calling a "pleasant" person "nice" would you give them a bloody good lecturing about how rude they've been? no? so why would you do it here when the word "feminism", descriptively (not prescriptively) means "a movement whereby women try and degrade men and blame them for any kind of short coming of women"? that's literally what it is. they don't want equality or else why do they never stand up for *any* innocent men? they will defend women who falsely accuse men of rape and base it on things like "oh she was clearly mentally sick" while the man wouldn't even be morally relevant to them. "equality" my ****ing ass. if feminism means equality then that would literally mean that all feminists by definition are mens' rights activists! I suppose they'll be happy to learn about this logic! dictionary definitions are magical!
    Feminism proper does apply here though - I don't think one can consistently be a feminist while also taking their husband's surname in the interest of tradition. It's a rather silly and sexist tradition.
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    (Original post by absoul)
    Are you calling OP an idiot because she chooses not to associate herself with a group of fat ugly women who belittle others for not agreeing with their ideas?

    The micro aggressions that feminists like you display against beautiful women comes out of your self loathing and jealous nature.
    Hello Ttingox/2016_GCSE.

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    Im a guy and i dont particularly have an issue if a girl insists on keeping her name. OP, you can keep both names.
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    (Original post by Nirvana1989-1994)
    Hello Ttingox/2016_GCSE.

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    wtf
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    (Original post by macromicro)
    Feminism proper does apply here though - I don't think one can consistently be a feminist while also taking their husband's surname in the interest of tradition. It's a rather silly and sexist tradition.
    who's arguing with you? not me - I agree with you. I'm in favour of gender equality so why wouldn't I be in favour of letting go of this obviously outdated tradition? I don't agree with the other user, though, who was saying that not being a "feminist" was the same as being an idiot
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    (Original post by Hōseki)
    Well it's called a maiden name for a reason.
    The surname that a married woman used before she was married
    It would bind you into a family unit and make it easier to know what to write on the birth certificates if you ever have children.
    From a religious point of view (just putting it out there), when you marry someone you become one flesh so I guess it would be customary.
    I feel like there are so many different types of families these days that it shouldn't be expected of me. Part of my strong view on the subject is probably because I'm being denied choice. The religious view is one that is shared by my parents also
 
 
 
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