B1093 – Abortion Equality Bill 2016 (Second Reading) Watch

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B1093 – Abortion Equality Bill 2016 (Second Reading), joecphillips MP
Abortion equality bill 2016

A bill to give fathers equal opportunity to abort parental rights before a child is born.

1. Definitions
(1) Father is the biological male parent.
(2) Mother is the biological female parent.

2. Legal abortion
(1) A father can permanently abort all parental rights and responsibilities to a child-
(A) up to 1 week before the abortion deadline; or
(B) up to 2 weeks after the father discovers about the pregnancy if the mother knew about the pregnancy before 23 weeks into it; or
(C) at any point during the pregnancy with the mothers consent.

3. Process
(1) To abort all parental rights and responsibilities a father must communicate that they intend to by sending a letter by recorded delivery that has been certified by a solicitor to the mother
(2) The message must to clearly state "I am aborting all parental rights and responsibilities to the child you are currently pregnant with"

4. Extent, commencement, and short title
(1) This Act extends to the whole of the United Kingdom.
(2) This Act comes into force on the day on which it is passed.
(3) This Act may be cited as the Abortion equality bill 2016.

Notes
Let's do something to reduce legal inequality.

Since 1976 a right has existed for just one group of people and but not another, how in a society where people claim to support equality can this be accepted?

Changes for 2nd reading:
2(1) made it clearer that it is a permanent decision
2(1)(a) changed from 23 weeks to tie into abortion guidelines
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I still support this bill. Aye.
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Nay - already discussed this with you, but I simply feel that this bill is not something I personally agree with. I also cannot accept that any responsible person could 'abort' responsibility for their child via letter.
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Still aye, if the woman can do it, the man can do it.
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As with first reading, aye.
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Nay - already discussed this with you, but I simply feel that this bill is not something I personally agree with. I also cannot accept that any responsible person could 'abort' responsibility for their child via text message.
I suggest you read the legislation you are commenting on
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I haven't changed my view on this, aye.
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(Original post by joecphillips)
I suggest you read the legislation you are commenting on
Corrected. :rofl2: Sorry Joe. It's... been a while...
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Fair changes, as with the first reading aye.
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(Original post by iEthan)
Corrected. :rofl2: Sorry Joe. It's... been a while...
Could make it a bit longer?
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Could make it a bit longer?
That would be nice, wouldn't it? Too bad I have no plans for that. Sorry to disappoint.
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That would be nice, wouldn't it? Too bad I have no plans for that. Sorry to disappoint.
*cries*
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(Original post by iEthan)
That would be nice, wouldn't it? Too bad I have no plans for that. Sorry to disappoint.
Welcome back.
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*cries*
There, there... you may send me to the gulag/other place that is similar/other suitable punishment if you wish... :console:
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There, there... you may send me to the gulag if you wish... :console:
Gulag jokes? Pathetic. Grow up. Making fun of institutions that were involved in the death of millions. I think you're in the wrong forum, chat sub is here:

https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=143
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Just no, for obvious reasons I've already stated.

(Original post by SoggyCabbages)
Gulag jokes? Pathetic. Grow up. Making fun of institutions that were involved in the death of millions
You really are the ultimate troll, aren't you?

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Will be voting aye
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No. Anyone who votes in favour of this cannot reasonably call themselves either liberal or left-wing. The issue is this amounts to the child being punished for happening to have dysfunctional parents. This spits in the face of equality of opportunity, disproportionately targets the working classes and the unfortunate (due to demographic effects), and basically causes about 50 years of regression in social development.

Here are several policy ideas which are more reasonable than this garbage:
  • Making the father able to force the mother to abort (the fact that this is more reasonable shows just quite what moronic trash this is)
  • Forcing marriage for couples with child (also ridiculous)
  • Allowing the father to elect before conception, and then and only then allowing him to remove himself from responsibility
  • Government funding in place
  • Requiring the father's payments to be an interest-free loan, repayable at a modest rate once the child turns 18 (my personal favourite of these)
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No. Anyone who votes in favour of this cannot reasonably call themselves either liberal or left-wing. The issue is this amounts to the child being punished for happening to have dysfunctional parents. This spits in the face of equality of opportunity, disproportionately targets the working classes and the unfortunate (due to demographic effects), and basically causes about 50 years of regression in social development.

Here are several policy ideas which are more reasonable than this garbage:
  • Making the father able to force the mother to abort (the fact that this is more reasonable shows just quite what moronic trash this is)
  • Forcing marriage for couples with child (also ridiculous)
  • Allowing the father to elect before conception, and then and only then allowing him to remove himself from responsibility
  • Government funding in place
  • Requiring the father's payments to be an interest-free loan, repayable at a modest rate once the child turns 18 (my personal favourite of these)
you make a compelling case. nay
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