(Original post by BornUnderPunches)
However, rather than seeing religion as optional, as you have done here - I think religion is, in primitive stages of a society, pretty inevitable.
No I think religion is programmed into out genes by behaviours such as morality and abstraction, it's a natural projection of our intelligence, however inevitable it is I see no reason that these abilities that are hard wired in our brain would have not developed in different ways without religion. To think otherwise is to me utterly ridiculous, actually I think it has so little merit that I would laugh in anyone's face for even suggesting it, seriously its perhaps the dumbest most worthless statement I've ever heard, and it makes me cringe that mankind thinks that he is exclusively capable of this and that even our early ancestors weren't, and just goes to highlight how idiotic and humanocentric the human race really is, giving itself the only ability in the Universe to think abstractly is perhaps the biggest joke since some Mesopotamian drunk said I know it's raining a lot I'll build a boat and put every animal in it.
Art and morality came first, see my article from the New Scientist about morality being hard wired in the brain in religion D&D.
I see no ones challenged whether I a non believer find all my creative expression only from God? Or whether Kafka an atheists trial is about God and not fascist societies? Or from a personal perspective, hehe seriously I think some people are just programmed to overate religion, by being a believer, it's sad that reason has to so often lose out to brainwashing, but then spirituality appears to be in our genes also, you must learn to think for yourself, it is not 600 BC we have developed sophisticated means of governance that makes religion redundant in law and even IMO in morality. And most especially in art, who paints about God these days unless they were ruined by childhood experiences of religion and seek to mock it. Most artists don't even acknowledge it exists at least not in this country.
So if I drew a picture of a plate of a flying spagheti monster and said it created the universe in four days, a mountain a tree and a midget included, that would be a religion? FSM isn't a religion, it was created to mock such notions that religion appears to laud and hilariously too.
religious art is also sent up, instead of David reaching out to God, he reaches out to one of FSM's noodly appendages
but does that mean that art came before religion? Does it, considering this secular country in the main thinks religion is a joke, I think you weigh its influence to mightily, and ignore the fact that most people don't even follow it, but are subject to their animalistic needs as should be, we are nothing but animals with big heads, literally and figuratively.