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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    They should dress properly for going outside pj's are not acceptable for adults in 99% of situations, although this is the only thing I have seen about them they could be normal working people. But our country and people do have problems and just because you are British does not mean you are a good person.
    Exactly. So I see you placing a whole set of requirements for immigrants wishing to settle. Do those requirements also exist for the indigenous population? If not, then you are unfortunately being discriminatory and despite your reasonable arguments you are basically saying you don't want that lot coming to the UK for a bunch of arbitrary reasons. If the rules are consistent for everyone in the UK, what are you going to do with UK citizens who do not exhibit the behaviours you seek?

    Is there not something rather sad about making people conform to such an extent?
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    (Original post by ByEeek)
    Exactly. So I see you placing a whole set of requirements for immigrants wishing to settle. Do those requirements also exist for the indigenous population? If not, then you are unfortunately being discriminatory and despite your reasonable arguments you are basically saying you don't want that lot coming to the UK for a bunch of arbitrary reasons. If the rules are consistent for everyone in the UK, what are you going to do with UK citizens who do not exhibit the behaviours you seek?

    Is there not something rather sad about making people conform to such an extent?
    This is my opinion and If I did have the power to impliment this I would not, This was more me saying what I think a good Immigrant should do and a good person if they are already born here.

    I agree there is a problem with some British people too and I would adress them with different policies.
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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    I agree there is a problem with some British people too and I would adress them with different policies.
    Some? More than some surely? I would put you in the "some" box. So much hate going round at the moment. Do you need a hug?
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    (Original post by ByEeek)
    Some? More than some surely? I would put you in the "some" box. So much hate going round at the moment. Do you need a hug?
    If you class hate as being concerned for the state of My country and the world and wanting to make sure that I and the future generation grow up well then yes I am a hater.

    sure it would be nice if we all lived together and everything was cheap and wars did not happen and we could take in 10bn refugees with out any problem, but welcome to the real work not everything is nice, the things that I belive in may not be the most immediatly kind but they are the most logical and the best if we wish to continue on as a prosperous situation.
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    I think "liberals" defended slavery *despite* principles of liberty and individual autonomy...the enlightenment, again, wasn't just some snap into modernity - it was gradual, very gradual. but at least it was clear in its direction.
    They were liberals not "liberals". And nope, they had the whole slavery thing tied to property (which is what liberalism is) and neatly explained. They tied slavery in with their liberal ideas. It just took a while to come to the notion that black people are not property. I'm not saying liberalism leads to slavery or anything. Just that it was a thing. It shouldn't be a surprise either, liberal were not that fond of universal suffrage either.
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    (Original post by Len Goodman)
    He's right, you know. I don't why we can't all just stay put in our countries of origin and stick to our own kind.
    If only this started from like the beginning of time. And the British didn't like invade nearly the whole world, then I feel like loads of people would just stick in their own country. It's when us guys in the west go messing around with other countries and make them inhabitable and then we like to complain about immigrants
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    Because it's better than civil war, discrimination, and cultural and ethnic hostility. It's the only way of dealing with the multiracial society we live in today.
    Also, http://www.forbes.com/sites/glennllo.../#2de799a512e8
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    western civilisation is the literal master race
    we are more civilised, tolerant, liberal, fair, free, etc than all the other civilisations
    we aren't controlled by dictators or religions and hence our spirits are free and our mentalities are fair
    now, why would you want to introduce inferior civilisations into our mix?
    having a unity of the best kind of people is simply better than a mix of good and bad
    this has nothing to do with race - it's a matter of culture
    for instance, the middle east never had an enlightenment. the west did.
    Kinda sad to just leave the east behind tho. If we r lucky enough to be born into a society that is so liberal we should try our best to make sure as many as possible get that same right cuz u don't choose where ur born and tbh not everyone from the east is bad that's defo not true. And u Gotta admit the west was pretty **** even in the last century so I wouldn't say we r especially good, maybe the east might have even become better than the west if it hadn't been for like the British empire and stuff
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    They were liberals not "liberals".
    ...no. they were "liberals". liberalism as a principle cannot in any way justify slavery. "liberals" (the "liberals" so called within their) were more liberal than their modern day conservatives. but they weren't liberals in that there is no principle of liberalism that can moralise slavery at all.

    And nope, they had the whole slavery thing tied to property (which is what liberalism is) and neatly explained. They tied slavery in with their liberal ideas.
    people, i.e individuals, don't have "liberty" if they're slaves though. liberalism 101.

    It just took a while to come to the notion that black people are not property. I'm not saying liberalism leads to slavery or anything. Just that it was a thing. It shouldn't be a surprise either, liberal were not that fond of universal suffrage either.
    it's like you're claiming that mohammad was a feminist.
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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    sure it would be nice if we all lived together and everything was cheap and wars did not happen and we could take in 10bn refugees with out any problem, but welcome to the real work not everything is nice, the things that I belive in may not be the most immediatly kind but they are the most logical and the best if we wish to continue on as a prosperous situation.
    Wars happen because of people like you. We live in a small world which is getting smaller. There are many people of many different clans and tribes. If you have genuine concern for future generations you need to start accepting that you are going to be living around people who don't quite fit as you would like. Hate is such a wasteful emotion. Can you think of anyone significant in history that achieved anything positive off the back of hate?

    Don't be a hater. You will just tear yourself to peaces and everything around you too.
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    How did the diversity project work out in Rotherham?
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    ...no. they were "liberals". liberalism as a principle cannot in any way justify slavery.
    Fine then. But that means Stalin was a "socialist" and not a socialist.
 
 
 
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