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    Is it just me or is this clearly a troll?
    Read the question and tell me what you think.
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    (Original post by MrMimeMo)
    Every author does it, it's a terrible assumption, people assume the english name I guess.

    Texts shouldn't have assumptions, but they clearly do. It is better to say, "we call this cytoplasm in english". There are no assumptions then.
    Indeed, many texts are riddled with ambiguity, but this is not one.

    And I think it's perfectly fine for texts to have assumptions: imagine how long a quantum mechanics textbook would have to be if it couldn't assume prior knowledge of the reader!
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    (Original post by MrMimeMo)
    You should write, "this is called a tree in english"

    Tell me, what is wrong with that sentence? I don't think anything.
    Because it doesnt make sense - youre writing in English so why do you need to clarify that 'tree' is in English.

    See, youre over complicating it now xD
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    Indeed, many texts are riddled with ambiguity, but this is not one.

    And I think it's perfectly fine for texts to have assumptions: imagine how long a quantum mechanics textbook would have to be if it couldn't assume prior knowledge of the reader!
    what do you understand when you read, "this is called the cytoplasm", do you understand it's called that in english only or every language? Aren't you having to assume?
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    (Original post by kiiten)
    Because it doesnt make sense - youre writing in English so why do you need to clarify that 'tree' is in English.

    See, youre over complicating it now xD
    Because I can write, "this is called arbol in spanish"

    So the clarification is needed, unless we assume they mean the english name since the author has given no clarification.
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    (Original post by MrMimeMo)
    So what does that mean?

    Why can't I say it's called citoplasma in spanish and cytoplasm in english?
    Oh, hey Advice Guru!

    (Original post by kiiten)
    Exactly! Youre overthinking it. Ok so with youre example - 'that is called a tree' you wouldnt need to add 'which is ........ in Spanish' because it's unnecessary information.
    She's a dupe of a TSR language troll, one of the rarer breeds. Check out the ridiculous language threads she made in the past:

    https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=269943

    https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=2699432

    https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=2723161

    :rofl:
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    (Original post by MrMimeMo)
    If in an english biology textbook it says, "this part of the cell is called the cytoplasm", does it mean that part of the cell is called the cytoplasm in english and something different in other languages but you need to know the english name because science is written in english 99% of the time?

    Also, why don't they write, "this part of the cell is called the cytoplasm in english" and instead write, "this part of the cell is called the cytoplasm".
    Just...wow.
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    (Original post by MrMimeMo)
    what do you understand when you read, "this is called the cytoplasm", do you understand it's called that in english only or every language? Aren't you having to assume?
    To be perfectly honest, before this discussion it wouldn't even have crossed my mind to question if that could possibly have meant in every language. Yes, I am having to assume, but it's a very intuitive assumption and hence would be considered unambiguous by most readers.

    We humans are not pure logic beings. Unlike computers, we have the ability to induce and make assumptions (though with the rise in AI capabilities, who knows how long until they can make assumptions without it having to be coded?).
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Oh, hey Advice Guru!



    She's a dupe of a TSR language troll, one of the rarer breeds. Check out the ridiculous language threads she made in the past:

    https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=269943

    https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=2699432

    https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=2723161

    :rofl:
    You know you've been here too long when you remember Advice_Guru
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    (Original post by MrMimeMo)
    You know you've been here too long when you remember Advice_Guru
    You're quite dedicated to still be making the same threads you were making on Advice Guru account 3 years ago.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    You're quite dedicated to still be making the same threads you were making on Advice Guru account 3 years ago.
    They aren't the same, plus no one really gives a clear answer. It's a flaw in the text and a major assumption is required on the reader.

    I know you are the spanish guy, how is that going? Still thinking in spanish these days?
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    (Original post by MrMimeMo)
    They aren't the same, plus no one really gives a clear answer. It's a flaw in the text and a major assumption is required on the reader.

    I know you are the spanish guy, how is that going? Still thinking in spanish these days?
    A "major" assumption :rofl:
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    A "major" assumption :rofl:
    That it's an assumption is bad enough. There shouldn't be assumptions.
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    Though Advice_Guru was way more destructive on TSR, I've mellowed from those days.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Oh, hey Advice Guru!



    She's a dupe of a TSR language troll, one of the rarer breeds. Check out the ridiculous language threads she made in the past:

    https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=269943

    https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=2699432

    https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=2723161

    :rofl:
    Hahaha thanks for telling me

    Now i dont have to waste my time replying
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    *bump*

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    I feel your pain PQ!
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    (Original post by kiiten)
    Hahaha thanks for telling me

    Now i dont have to waste my time replying
    It's not a waste of time, if it makes you think and answers the question.
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    (Original post by MrMimeMo)
    It's not a waste of time, if it makes you think and answers the question.
    I already answered your question.
 
 
 
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