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    (Original post by DFranklin)
    How would you see this working with attachments? (It's precisely because of issues like this that I don't like attachments).
    I don't think this would be a big problem. The template can be deleted if needed but it would at least make the student see that working is required when starting a thread.

    Many students would ignore the template completely but I'm sure it would reduce the need to say, "post your working".
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    (Original post by notnek)
    I don't think this would be a big problem. The template can be deleted if needed but it would at least make the student see that working is required when starting a thread.
    Fair point. As a regular I tend to forget that although this is all in the forum guidelines people don't usually ever read them before posting...
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    (Original post by Mr M)
    Well I've been back for a couple of days and can report on what I have seen.

    The traffic is certainly much lower than it has ever been. There are lots of maths threads but they are appearing in the GCSE and A level Forums and elsewhere rather than in F38. I've been reporting them to request that they are moved.

    Lots of users are oblivious to the F38 Forum Rule about not giving full solutions. They don't seem to mind when they are told about this and appear willing to conform so, if everyone could challenge people posting full solutions, I'm sure that would help.

    I've seen a bit of trolling silliness. This may have moved in to fill the vacuum and I expect it will decline if the academic side of the Forum is re-established.

    Finally, I will have been here for 10 years on 16th January. I'm just making you aware of this so that you can put my long service medal in the post.
    Your ceaseless assistance, wide expertise and good humour are much appreciated here :congrats:

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    Having a maths WYSIWG edtior would help with the latex problem. The user would select "maths mode" and then proceed to click the functions that they'd like to use.
    You might use an interface such as the one available at http://www.hostmath.com/.
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    The maths forum needs to be FAR more obvious - perhaps when people click on 'start new discussion' there should be some guidance. A number of times I've let new people know they should not post full solutions and they are usually very apologetic.
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    (Original post by Kvothe the Arcane)
    Having a maths WYSIWG edtior would help with the latex problem. The user would select "maths mode" and then proceed to click the functions that they'd like to use.
    You might use an interface such as the one available at http://www.hostmath.com/.
    this - or something that allowed free drawing on a phone app or similar for maths forum posts could be really helpful (well for people who don't have fat fingers like me :rofl: )
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    Your comments and suggestions have been really helpful so far guys, please try to avoid getting into arguments about other people's opinions and ideas so this doesn't clutter up the thread while we're looking through to try and find your feedback.
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    (Original post by AshEntropy)
    I've seen on multiple occasions, on this subforum, people asking for help with maths that other users deem "easy" and treat the user asking for help with disdain. I think people are scared to ask for help in fear of being treated badly, as there are clearly users on here that are mathematical geniuses (notnek + RDKGames ) but some people seem to feel intimidated by them (through no fault of their own!) because they are extremely superior to them in terms of maths.
    This definitely resonated with me. If I get stuck I'll have a look here to see if it's been asked before, but won't raise a thread if it hasn't; I'm still on basic (GCSE/Early A-level stuff) and I worry I'm going to be shot down. So much of the maths here is way over my head so it's quite an intimidating environment!

    If you ask in the GCSE or A-level forums though, then you know only people who are expecting to see basic things will see/respond to it, and you won't disturb a bunch of angry mathmos...
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    (Original post by AmeliaLost)
    This definitely resonated with me. If I get stuck I'll have a look here to see if it's been asked before, but won't raise a thread if it hasn't; I'm still on basic (GCSE/Early A-level stuff) and I worry I'm going to be shot down. So much of the maths here is way over my head so it's quite an intimidating environment!

    If you ask in the GCSE or A-level forums though, then you know only people who are expecting to see basic things will see/respond to it, and you won't disturb a bunch of angry mathmos...
    I don't think you would be shot down but I understand that you may feel like your question is out of place when there are so many A Level threads.

    Aside from having more GCSE threads and fewer A Level threads, can you think of anything specific that could be changed so that you would feel less intimidated?
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    (Original post by notnek)
    ... Aside from having more GCSE threads and fewer A Level threads, can you think of anything specific that could be changed so that you would feel less intimidated?
    Having a stickied thread for GCSE questions (like the Y13 sticky) could be good. It might help nudge the culture along too, as it's sort of a flag saying "this sort of thing belongs here!" - especially if TSR is trying to stop people using the upper-tier "GCSE" forum etc for subject-specific q's. Nothing else immediately springs to mind though...
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    (Original post by AmeliaLost)
    Having a stickied thread for GCSE questions (like the Y13 sticky) could be good. It might help nudge the culture along too, as it's sort of a flag saying "this sort of thing belongs here!" - especially if TSR is trying to stop people using the upper-tier "GCSE" forum etc for subject-specific q's. Nothing else immediately springs to mind though...
    That is an excellent idea that I hadn't thought of.

    Any mods agree and want to start such a thread?
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    (Original post by AmeliaLost)
    Having a stickied thread for GCSE questions (like the Y13 sticky) could be good. It might help nudge the culture along too, as it's sort of a flag saying "this sort of thing belongs here!" - especially if TSR is trying to stop people using the upper-tier "GCSE" forum etc for subject-specific q's. Nothing else immediately springs to mind though...
    If you feel this would help to encourage GCSE students then I'm up for it, my only concern is that because everyone posts their questions in there, if it's a busy day then some questions will get lost pages back in a thread with no answers, whereas if they have a thread of their own then they are more likely to get an answer. I'd be more inclined to have a 'GCSE Maths questions and chat thread' to encourage people to come out of their shells a bit, as long as it was posted in the OP that if people don't get answers to their questions in the thread then they should make their own thread in the maths forum. A lot of our stats on how the forum is doing is based off amount of threads created too
    (Original post by notnek)
    That is an excellent idea that I hadn't thought of.

    Any mods agree and want to start such a thread?
    It doesn't have to be a mod who starts it, if anyone in the maths community wants to make the OP, you guys probably know your way around the subforum than I do! I'll be happy to add anything official to it and sticky it, unless rayquaza17 or Indeterminate want to get involved in making it
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    (Original post by Gingerbread101)
    If you feel this would help to encourage GCSE students then I'm up for it, my only concern is that because everyone posts their questions in there, if it's a busy day then some questions will get lost pages back in a thread with no answers, whereas if they have a thread of their own then they are more likely to get an answer. I'd be more inclined to have a 'GCSE Maths questions and chat thread' to encourage people to come out of their shells a bit, as long as it was posted in the OP that if people don't get answers to their questions in the thread then they should make their own thread in the maths forum. A lot of our stats on how the forum is doing is based off amount of threads created too
    This all sounds good to me.

    I will add that the GCSE has changed a lot this year so students may have general questions about the GCSE that they could post in this thread and that could be mentioned in the OP. I think I'd prefer a mod to start the thread so it looks more official
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    (Original post by notnek)
    This all sounds good to me.

    I will add that the GCSE has changed a lot this year so students may have general questions about the GCSE that they could post in this thread and that could be mentioned in the OP. I think I'd prefer a mod to start the thread so it looks more official
    I'll see what the maths specialist mods say, if they don't have the time then I can make it for you guys
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    (Original post by Gingerbread101)
    If you feel this would help to encourage GCSE students then I'm up for it, my only concern is that because everyone posts their questions in there, if it's a busy day then some questions will get lost pages back in a thread with no answers, whereas if they have a thread of their own then they are more likely to get an answer. I'd be more inclined to have a 'GCSE Maths questions and chat thread' to encourage people to come out of their shells a bit, as long as it was posted in the OP that if people don't get answers to their questions in the thread then they should make their own thread in the maths forum. A lot of our stats on how the forum is doing is based off amount of threads created too
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    Yeah, that seems sensible. Hopefully it will at least foster some sort of community on this board, which would get things started :cute:
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    (Original post by notnek)
    This all sounds good to me.

    I will add that the GCSE has changed a lot this year so students may have general questions about the GCSE that they could post in this thread and that could be mentioned in the OP. I think I'd prefer a mod to start the thread so it looks more official
    I note F373 already has a sticky regarding the new GCSE so it seems there'd be some redundancy here.

    (Having paid attention to the stickies there, I'd also say that the "Summer of Maths" sticky is 100% in the wrong place and should be in F38).

    I also share gingerbreads concerns about this being a sticky - I have to say I tend to subconsciously zone out of sticky threads and ignore them by default!
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    (Original post by DFranklin)
    I also share gingerbreads concerns about this being a sticky - I have to say I tend to subconsciously zone out of sticky threads and ignore them by default!
    I feel that something needs to be done to encourage more GCSE students, especially if they're feeling intimidated.

    The sticky thread may not be successful but it's worth trying. I'm happy to look in the thread for unanswered questions if I'm free and I'm sure there will be others. If there are too many unanswered questions then the idea may need to be abandoned.
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    Sorry I've been tagged in a few posts here and haven't replied yet. I am currently away at the moment but I go back home tomorrow and I'll reply to them with my thoughts.
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    (Original post by AmeliaLost)
    This definitely resonated with me. If I get stuck I'll have a look here to see if it's been asked before, but won't raise a thread if it hasn't; I'm still on basic (GCSE/Early A-level stuff) and I worry I'm going to be shot down. So much of the maths here is way over my head so it's quite an intimidating environment!
    I assure you that no 'decent' poster is going to give you a hard time for posting an elementary question (exception: if you tag your thread as post graduate and ask a GCSE level question, I might snark at you..).

    The bigger problem is people pitching help at an inappropriate level for the person asking the question. I'd say that this is usually well meaning, but it's certainly confusing and often comes across as trying to show off (and therefore make the questioner feel they're being put down).
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    (Original post by DFranklin)
    I note F373 already has a sticky regarding the new GCSE so it seems there'd be some redundancy here.

    (Having paid attention to the stickies there, I'd also say that the "Summer of Maths" sticky is 100% in the wrong place and should be in F38).

    I also share gingerbreads concerns about this being a sticky - I have to say I tend to subconsciously zone out of sticky threads and ignore them by default!
    This has been moved :yy:

    We'll see how it goes, either way I'm sure it'll make people feel more at home, even if they do still have to ask their questions in individual threads rather than in the sticky
 
 
 
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