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    Do you feel Meme Magic and the Prophecy of Kek played a role in Donald's victory?
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    Why do you agree with Trump's many derogatory comments about women?
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    (Original post by RedManc)
    I'm not alternative right, I'm alternative left
    - I support Donald Trump 50%
    - I support Brexit
    -I support Labour
    - I support a ban on unskilled immigration and repatriation of recent unskilled immigrants
    -I support a ban on Muslims and people from majority-Muslim nations entering the UK.
    -I support fracking and shale oil extraction
    - I oppose BLM and ISIS
    That makes literal zero sense, how can you support Labour with those views? Literally no one important in the Labour Party believes in that stuff...

    The Leftist equivalent of the alt-right is the SJWs, or as I like to call them: the ctrl-left.
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    (Original post by stasss)
    Why do you agree with Trump's many derogatory comments about women?
    People are far too concerned these days about being politically correct and about covering the truth or their opinion in order to not offend someone. We need someone who will say it as it is, like Trump
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    (Original post by shanktheopps)
    - I support Donald Trump 100%
    - I support Brexit
    -I support UKIP but also have respect for the Conservatives
    - I support a ban on unskilled immigration and repatriation of recent unskilled immigrants
    -I support a ban on Muslims and people from majority-Muslim nations entering the UK.
    -I support fracking and shale oil extraction
    - I oppose BLM and ISIS
    Why do you support free trade (you mentioned respect for May's planned trade deals) but not the free movement of people?

    In order to be a non-hypocritical capitalist you need to support both (I do), as it creates more demand (and therefore more profit), as well as more supply (by directly filling undesirable jobs that snobby working class brits won't do, as well as indirectly creating more jobs by small businesses that need staffing etc).

    The only alt right people whose ideology makes sense (but don't get me wrong, they're still insane) are national socialists, you cannot believe in reduced immigration and free market economics at the same time, that's oxymoronic.
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    That makes literal zero sense, how can you support Labour with those views? Literally no one important in the Labour Party believes in that stuff...

    The Leftist equivalent of the alt-right is the SJWs, or as I like to call them: the ctrl-left.
    The reason why is supported Trump was because Hillary wanted to shut the mines. Tony Benn was a strong advocate for Brexit, and he was a former Labour MP. I also believe in the French style secularism, which means I am heavily critical of Islam and other religions, but mainly Islam and Judaism.
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    (Original post by shanktheopps)
    People are far too concerned these days about being politically correct and about covering the truth or their opinion in order to not offend someone. We need someone who will say it as it is, like Trump
    How do you equate saying it like it is to boasting about sexual assualt?
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    The Leftist equivalent of the alt-right is the SJWs, or as I like to call them: the ctrl-left.
    looool that's the best name I've heard for them, works even better because they're authoritarian control freaks too :rofl:
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    (Original post by RedManc)
    The reason why is supported Trump was because Hillary wanted to shut the mines. Tony Benn was a strong advocate for Brexit, and he was a former Labour MP. I also believe in the French style secularism, which means I am heavily critical of Islam and other religions, but mainly Islam and Judaism.
    Yes, but Tony Benn was still pro immigration as is everyone in that area of the far left (far leftists shouldn't believe in borders at all and should believe that we are all citizens of the world.)
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    (Original post by stasss)
    How do you equate saying it like it is to boasting about sexual assualt?
    He's allowed to joke around, have some honour. It's not something that worries me.
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    What are your thoughts on gay marriage?
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    (Original post by stasss)
    How do you equate saying it like it is to boasting about sexual assualt?
    Is it still sexual assault if consent is given? Quoth the President-Elect,

    "When you're a star they let you do it."
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    Yes, but Tony Benn was still pro immigration as is everyone in that area of the far left (far leftists shouldn't believe in borders at all and should believe that we are all citizens of the world.)
    yes, but you also need to take the working class prospective. Immigration is good in small amounts. However, if there is uncontrolled mass immigration than wages will get worse. It will also increase competition, which is bad for workers, as it means that there is no job security. Immigration benefits the middle/upper classes as they can employ people who work for less. Immigration is bad for the working class. Labour is meant to support the working class.
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    (Original post by shanktheopps)
    He's allowed to joke around, have some honour. It's not something that worries me.
    so do you not feel that sexual assault is a serious issue/ crime? do you think you'd feel the same if a loved one or yourself was a victim of sexual assault?

    And in general his repeated objectification of women attempting to fulfill a role in which their physical appearance/ gender is irrelevant? Would you be happy if that were to happen to you so publicly?
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    (Original post by stasss)
    so do you not feel that sexual assault is a serious issue/ crime? do you think you'd feel the same if a loved one or yourself was a victim of sexual assault?

    And in general his repeated objectification of women attempting to fulfill a role in which their physical appearance/ gender is irrelevant? Would you be happy if that were to happen to you so publicly?
    When did Trump say that he "sexually assaulted" anyone?
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    (Original post by RedManc)
    yes, but you also need to take the working class prospective. Immigration is good in small amounts. However, if there is uncontrolled mass immigration than wages will get worse. It will also increase competition, which is bad for workers, as it means that there is no job security. Immigration benefits the middle/upper classes as they can employ people who work for less. Immigration is bad for the working class. Labour is meant to support the working class.
    That's a common misconception, it's called the lump of labour fallacy and is quite well known in economics:

    The lump of labour fallacy has been applied to concerns around immigration and labour. Given a fixed availability of employment, the lump of labour position argues that allowing immigration of working-age people reduces the availability of work for native-born workers ("they are taking our jobs"). However, skilled immigrating workers can bring capabilities that are not available in the native workforce, for example in academic research or information technology. Additionally, immigrating workforces also create new jobs by expanding the economy and creating further jobs either directly by setting up businesses (therefore requiring local services or workforces), or indirectly by an increased population. As an example, a greater population that needs to buy more groceries will increase demand on shops and therefore require additional shop staff.

    The amount of work is not fixed, it's always important to remember that.
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    Don't you think there is talent in majority Muslim nations that we could benefit from?
    Also what are your thoughts on ex-Muslims?
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    That's a common misconception, it's called the lump of labour fallacy and is quite well known in economics:

    The lump of labour fallacy has been applied to concerns around immigration and labour. Given a fixed availability of employment, the lump of labour position argues that allowing immigration of working-age people reduces the availability of work for native-born workers ("they are taking our jobs". However, skilled immigrating workers can bring capabilities that are not available in the native workforce, for example in academic research or information technology. Additionally, immigrating workforces also create new jobs by expanding the economy and creating further jobs either directly by setting up businesses (therefore requiring local services or workforces), or indirectly by an increased population. As an example, a greater population that needs to buy more groceries will increase demand on shops and therefore require additional shop staff.

    The amount of work is not fixed, it's always important to remember that.
    The working classes want a Labour government like the 1945 labour government, when they delivered full employment.
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    (Original post by stasss)
    so do you not feel that sexual assault is a serious issue/ crime? do you think you'd feel the same if a loved one or yourself was a victim of sexual assault?]
    Ahem.

    (Original post by jape)
    Is it still sexual assault if consent is given? Quoth the President-Elect,

    "When you're a star they let you do it."
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    (Original post by shanktheopps)
    When did Trump say that he "sexually assaulted" anyone?
    he hasn't explicitly admited to doing so, and I never said that he had. What he did do however, in the conversation with Billy Bush, was boast about the fact that he had kissed and groped women without their consent. This is sexual assault. If you choose to take it as a 'joke' he is nevertheless joking about an extremely serious crime. I'm struggling to understand why you would advocate such behaviour
 
 
 
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