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    (Original post by Zargabaath)
    Okay, serious question



    What do you feel of Donald Trump's "drain the swamp" anti-establishment rhetoric...
    I wonder how many wetlands will be literally drained as a result of his views on the environment? :beard:
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    (Original post by shanktheopps)
    I agree that Jewish people have a lot of power and have enjoyed a lot of political and financial success but a lot of it's down to their hard work and I don't see it as a problem. I don't believe Ina Jewish conspiracy but I do believe in a liberal conspiracy. If you look at the mainstream media outlets, they all favour the left on social and economic issues.
    Have you read any news about Corbyn at all? lol.
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    (Original post by stasss)
    he hasn't explicitly admited to doing so, and I never said that he had. What he did do however, in the conversation with Billy Bush, was boast about the fact that he had kissed and groped women without their consent. This is sexual assault. If you choose to take it as a 'joke' he is nevertheless joking about an extremely serious crime. I'm struggling to understand why you would advocate such behaviour
    It's called having a sense of humour. I don't see why people got triggered about it.
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    (Original post by RedManc)
    The working classes want a Labour government like the 1945 labour government, when they delivered full employment.
    Ah, but arguably full employment is impossible in the modern service based economy, it's not as simple as electing someone and expecting immediate results, especially in this case, because most western countries buy manufacturing from China and India, because cheaper wages = more profit, you'd need spontaneous regime change all throughout the western word for that to work, if Britain went at it alone we'd suffer, as we are about to find out with Brexit.

    1945 was a simpler place, also most working class people are unfortunately not educated enough to understand in depth international relations and economics, it's a difficult situation.
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    i bet you don't even know what meme magic or the prophecy of kek is
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    (Original post by jape)
    Ahem.
    His words immidiately before that "I don't even wait" ie not seeking/ confirming consent. There is a diffrence between giving consent and not protesting within in the moment.
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    (Original post by shanktheopps)
    Because there is a serious problem with Islamic terrorism across the world. We can't hope to solve this problem while allowing more Muslims into the country, many of whom will be radicalised.

    And there is also the problem with integration. Islam seeks to dominate, if you look at places like Luton and Tower Hamlets it's already happening. We have ISIS supporters preaching in mosques, Muslim protesters chanting Allahu Akbar on the streets of Central London and a huge problem with Muslim rape gangs and hate preachers. Islamic culture is inferior to ours- it preaches the suppression of women, non-Muslims and LGBTs, we need to admit that as a country and stop more people brought up in this culture from bringing it to the UK
    Bit rich coming from the guy not agreeing with gay marriage.
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    (Original post by shanktheopps)
    It's called having a sense of humour. I don't see why people got triggered about it.
    Why do you support free trade (you mentioned respect for May's planned trade deals) but not the free movement of people? In order to be a non-hypocritical capitalist you need to support both (I do), as it creates more demand (and therefore more profit), as well as more supply (by directly filling undesirable jobs that snobby working class brits won't do, as well as indirectly creating more jobs by small businesses that need staffing etc). The only alt right people whose ideology makes sense (but don't get me wrong, they're still insane) are national socialists, you cannot believe in reduced immigration and free market economics at the same time, that's oxymoronic.
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    (Original post by Suprite)
    Bit rich coming from the guy not agreeing with gay marriage.
    There is a difference between not supporting gay marriage and supporting the execution of gay people and the criminalisation of homosexuality.
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    By oppose ISIS, do you mean you are actively involved in fighting against them, or do you leave the opposition to real men (predominately Muslim) and prefer to oppose them from the safety of your computer?
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    (Original post by shanktheopps)
    There is a difference between not supporting gay marriage and supporting the execution of gay people and the criminalisation of homosexuality.
    Doesn't excuse the fact that you are for preventing people form a basic right.
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    (Original post by Dima-Blackburn)
    I wonder how many wetlands will be literally drained as a result of his views on the environment? :beard:
    His appointment for the head of the EPA is a climate change denier, who brought a lawsuit against the EPA over the Clean Power Plan (that was shown to save lives), accepts donations from fossil fuel companies and has basically doesn't think the EPA should exist.

    So I don't have much hope there tbh :facepalm:
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    (Original post by Zargabaath)
    His appointment for the head of the EPA is a climate change denier, who brought a lawsuit against the EPA over the Clean Power Plan (that was shown to save lives), accepts donations from fossil fuel companies and has basically doesn't think the EPA should exist.

    So I don't have much hope there tbh :facepalm:
    The EPA shouldn't exist, just like the majority of the federal government

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    The EPA shouldn't exist, just like the majority of the federal government

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    lel

    you have your point, now evaluate and explain pls
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    The Alt Right is actually a very specific group.

    It's the media that called literally everyone who isn't far left the alt right which is strange because normally the far left consider everyone but themselves the far right.

    The Alt-Right are vaguely associated with neo-nazis and have a number of beliefs connected with that but generally try to separate themselves from the violent side of it that thugs are often drawn to. A lot of what the alt right believe is actually fairly rational. They tend to be more scientific, have a better understanding of history and so on than the far left or the mainstream. Some people have racist beliefs which are backed by science but for the most part they do not to believe those views justify extremes such as slavery and so on.

    They aren't representative of the right though as a whole. They are pretty much a fringe in group with a specific focus and their own lore.

    Where they go too far:

    They have an obsessive focus on Judaism. Some of it is just joking around but even then it's still too much. Not all of the criticisms they raise are invalid. It's the intensity of the focus on that which is off putting. It greatly overlooks the parts of our society that are vulnerable to other parties or that are working to destroy ourselves.

    They also believe in separation of different types of people to an extreme. Separatist movements are common today and throughout history. It's not an entirely flawed principle. The circumstances dictate its validity. In this case the extent to and manner in which they want to apply it, it simply doesn't seem practical or particularly necessary.

    They do also have a slight tendency to get pulled into conspiracy theories.
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    (Original post by Zargabaath)
    lel

    you have your point, now evaluate and explain pls
    Given today was the day the Constitution was read in the house I'll let Mr Steny Hoyer (D, Maryland 5th) do it for me: https://www.c-span.org/video/?420996...ion&start=2937

    Even using the commerce clause I think dubious to suggest that the EPA is constitutional, although it does appear SCOTUS will allow almost anything rationalised with the commerce clause.
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    Why won't you stop being so PC and say 'I am a neo-Nazi AMA'?
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    (Original post by shanktheopps)
    I agree that Jewish people have a lot of power and have enjoyed a lot of political and financial success but a lot of it's down to their hard work and I don't see it as a problem. I don't believe Ina Jewish conspiracy but I do believe in a liberal conspiracy. If you look at the mainstream media outlets, they all favour the left on social and economic issues.
    That is because generally human beings are good people, not selfish prejudiced robots.
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    (Original post by shanktheopps)
    Definitely, I am concerned about these things but I feel he is a lot less influenced by the stablishemnt than other politicians, especially Hillary. He also has said that he will remove his connections to the Trump Organisation when he enters his presidency.
    He is the establishment...
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    (Original post by shanktheopps)
    He's allowed to joke around, have some honour. It's not something that worries me.
    A real man of honor wouldn't boast about sexual assault or even joke about it.
 
 
 
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