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    (Original post by yudothis)
    That is because generally human beings are good people, not selfish prejudiced robots.
    Which makes several assumption, primarily that altruistic ethics are the best ethics and very widely pracised, and that left leaning ideology best conforms to those altruistic ideals, clearly at least one of those assumptions is false

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    (Original post by shanktheopps)
    It's called having a sense of humour. I don't see why people got triggered about it.
    Maybe someone has to sexually assault you, in order for you to understand it?

    But maybe just in words, joking about it, normalizing it, will make guys think it is ok. You may personally be able to differentiate between a joke and not act in the manner, but many won't.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Which makes several assumption, primarily that altruistic ethics are the best ethics and very widely pracised, and that left leaning ideology best conforms to those altruistic ideals, clearly at least one of those assumptions is false

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    Clearly? Assuming you are right and all these assumptions are made (which I disagree with to begin with), do elaborate on clearly.
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    Clearly? Assuming you are right and all these assumptions are made (which I disagree with to begin with), do elaborate on clearly.
    It's on the basis of a rightward tendency. If altruistic ethics are the predominant set then a rightward shift implies the right better manifests the ethics, or at least chosen balance. Alternatively, if the left better represent altruistic ethics then it implies that the ethical balance is away from the altruistic base.

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    What is the best game in the Heroes of Might and Magic / Might & Magic: Heroes franchise?

    Also, what does the 'Gr' stand for on Alt Right? It's not there on Alt Left, and it's always bugged me. :iiam:
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    It's on the basis of a rightward tendency. If altruistic ethics are the predominant set then a rightward shift implies the right better manifests the ethics, or at least chosen balance. Alternatively, if the left better represent altruistic ethics then it implies that the ethical balance is away from the altruistic base.

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    How people vote is not necessarily how they generally behave. Especially if there is only a binary choice.
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    (Original post by stasss)
    His words immidiately before that "I don't even wait" ie not seeking/ confirming consent. There is a diffrence between giving consent and not protesting within in the moment.
    There's no federal law on Affirmative Consent, so he's under no obligation to preface every interaction with "hi, hope you're not inebriated, would you mind if I kissed you right now?".

    I still think he's sleazy and slimy and gutturally unappealing. But a sexual assaulter he is not. Plus, if you actually watched the full tape, he says all this stupid **** to Billy Bush in the truck then gets out of the truck, meets a woman and stands there with his hands behind his back like a whipped puppy. It's almost adorable how deferential he is. This is not a guy who goes around snatching women up by the pussy.
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    Maybe someone has to sexually assault you, in order for you to understand it?

    But maybe just in words, joking about it, normalizing it, will make guys think it is ok. You may personally be able to differentiate between a joke and not act in the manner, but many won't.
    There is not a mentally sound man alive today, raise in the civilised parts of the world, who thinks rape and sexual assault is a moral grey area. Not one. That you think so lowly of 50% of the population is slightly concerning.
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    (Original post by jape)
    There is not a mentally sound man alive today, raise in the civilised parts of the world, who thinks rape and sexual assault is a moral grey area. Not one. That you think so lowly of 50% of the population is slightly concerning.
    How many of those are clear on what constitutes rape? Why do sexual assaults then happen so often? Is it all a minority of mentally unsound men? Lastly, why do they think it's wrong, but find it ok to normalize it by joking about it publicly? Who said I think so lowly of an entire gender? It was never implied anywhere. That you make such fallacious assumptions to further your argument is slightly concerning.
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    How many of those are clear on what constitutes rape? Why do sexual assaults then happen so often? Is it all a minority of mentally unsound men? Lastly, why do they think it's wrong, but find it ok to normalize it by joking about it publicly? Who said I think so lowly of an entire gender? It was never implied anywhere. That you make such fallacious assumptions to further your argument is slightly concerning.
    I'm not making an argument. "normalise" is a stupid word, by the way. There's a huge leap between joking about sexual assault (which, to begin with, very few people actually do) and then going out and sexually assaulting people. I'm not entirely sure why that isn't glaringly obvious to begin with.
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    (Original post by jape)
    I'm not making an argument. "normalise" is a stupid word, by the way. There's a huge leap between joking about sexual assault (which, to begin with, very few people actually do) and then going out and sexually assaulting people. I'm not entirely sure why that isn't glaringly obvious to begin with.
    Repeatedly making light of something does not make anyone belief it is actually light? And yes very few people do, because most realize it is completely inappropriate, so for someone to do it, don't you think he has to be pretty, unsound, as you put it? And then the people defending him and voting for an unsound person, what are they?
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    Same.

    Are you a member of a political party?
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    'I am against ISIS'.

    Yes, because as a liberal socialist I personally lend them my full support.
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    Repeatedly making light of something does not make anyone belief it is actually light? And yes very few people do, because most realize it is completely inappropriate, so for someone to do it, don't you think he has to be pretty, unsound, as you put it? And then the people defending him and voting for an unsound person, what are they?
    As I already explained, what he spoke about wasn't sexual assault.
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    God bless you
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    Alt right and mostly the right like to divide whilst the left like to come together. That's essentially the difference between the 2.
    I don't consider myself a leftie but I'd choose the latter way of thinking.
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    What about vaccines?
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    (Original post by jape)
    As I already explained, what he spoke about wasn't sexual assault.
    You see how normalized this attitude is if you think it's not sexual assault? Thanks for proving my point
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    (Original post by elen90)
    'I am against ISIS'.

    Yes, because as a liberal socialist I personally lend them my full support.
    "Liberal Socialist" is an oxymoron, you're literally saying you're an individualist collectivist, that is nonsense.

    You are either a social democrat or do not understand the meaning of liberalism.
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    (Original post by shanktheopps)
    - I support Donald Trump 100%
    - I support Brexit
    -I support UKIP but also have respect for the Conservatives
    - I support a ban on unskilled immigration and repatriation of recent unskilled immigrants
    -I support a ban on people from majority-Muslim nations entering the UK.
    -I support fracking and shale oil extraction
    - I oppose BLM and ISIS
    Who do you vote for, and do you genuinely believe that UKIP will ever be in government?
 
 
 
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