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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Actually I think you'll find that others are the judge of what you know..
    Yeah true but your not an examiner nor do I value your opinion to be frank or this posters opinion.


    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Your clearly someone who has read a few right wing articles and now suddenly thinks you have economics mastered. You are no cleverer than the person you called stupid.
    No , I don't really read right wing articles, you have no idea what I read, some of my sources I have used is the guardian.



    (Original post by Bornblue)
    You are no cleverer than the person you called stupid.
    Again this is subjective, I believe I am and don't really care if you think otherwise!
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    The simple answer to this thread is 'No' .

    Government already make rich individuals pay 47% of income taxes and i think that's plenty high enough. We should reduce government greed and shift taxation away from incomes.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    The simple answer to this thread is 'No' .

    Government already make rich individuals pay 47% of income taxes and i think that's plenty high enough. We should reduce government greed and shift taxation away from incomes.
    'Government greed'

    Rofl
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    Yeah true but your not an examiner nor do I value your opinion to be frank or this posters opinion.



    No , I don't really read right wing articles, you have no idea what I read, some of my sources I have used is the guardian.




    Again this is subjective, I believe I am and don't really care if you think otherwise!
    You called someone else an idiot because of their gcse results, when you yourself are a little kid who hasn't even taken his.

    You know very little about economics which was highlighted by your contributions in your debate with Des.

    Yet you pretend that you're this knowledgable, seasoned individual. Your view on the world is very immature and lacks nuance, understandably.

    One poster even had to pull you up because you failed to read your own graph correctly.

    You also have appalling spelling and grammar.
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    yeah why not, most of them would avoid the tax anyway
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    You called someone else an idiot because of their gcse results, when you yourself are a little kid who hasn't even taken his.
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    Actually I have taken a few and already have more A*'s than him and if I do worse I will eat my hat. We'll see on results on day how wrong you are!

    (Original post by Bornblue)
    You know very little about economics which was highlighted by your contributions in your debate with Des.

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    Again this is subjective, he labelled most cases 'rare' and 'extreme' and picked data patterns which suited him, both the IMF and the OCED are subjective ( after all he claims they were wrong about austerity, they could be wrong again)and you can view the same differently. Many economics graduates are left and right wing which obviously shows both sides have a valid case. I illustrated that Keynesian economics isn't necessarily left wing and right wing Keynesian economics does exist and has worked in the past. This is your biased opinion which I frankly don't really care about.




    (Original post by Bornblue)
    You

    Yet you pretend that you're this knowledgable, seasoned individual. Your view on the world is very immature and lacks nuance, understandably.
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    Never said I was knowledgeable. Again this is subjective, I couldn't care less of your opinion.



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    You also have appalling spelling and grammar.
    Can't say I care, this is a forum
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    'Government greed'

    Rofl

    Why are you rolling on the floor and laughing at the notion that the government is greedy? We spend £10bn simply in government and bureaucracy. The government isn't your friend.

    “Practical men who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." - John Maynard Keynes

    The economist being the government in this case
    But then again you sound like you think the rich should pay more tax for those who are less productive. How is that fair? If I came in and stole 50% of your hard earned income, is that right? Why is it okay when the government does it? Whilst you might say that the money goes to good causes like the NHS, what if I gave the money I stole off you to charity, is it still theft.

    Taxation is legalised robbery, nothing more
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    I'd be happy for the top rate of tax to go up to 60-80%, like it was in the past. We actually have a comparatively low rate to other developed countries.
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    (Original post by heri2rs)
    Why are you rolling on the floor and laughing at the notion that the government is greedy? We spend £10bn simply in government and bureaucracy. The government isn't your friend.

    “Practical men who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." - John Maynard Keynes

    The economist being the government in this case
    But then again you sound like you think the rich should pay more tax for those who are less productive. How is that fair? If I came in and stole 50% of your hard earned income, is that right? Why is it okay when the government does it? Whilst you might say that the money goes to good causes like the NHS, what if I gave the money I stole off you to charity, is it still theft.

    Taxation is legalised robbery, nothing more
    Without tax we'll be living in the stone ages
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    Actually I have taken a few and already have more A*'s than him and if I do worse I will eat my hat. We'll see on results on day how wrong you are!
    Coming on to a student forum to show off about your grades is incredibly sad and pathetic. Congratulations.

    Again this is subjective, he labelled most cases 'rare' and 'extreme' and picked data patterns which suited him, both the IMF and the OCED are subjective ( after all he claims they were wrong about austerity, they could be wrong again)and you can view the same differently. Many economics graduates are left and right wing which obviously shows both sides have a valid case. I illustrated that Keynesian economics isn't necessarily left wing and right wing Keynesian economics does exist and has worked in the past. This is your biased opinion which I frankly don't really care about.
    No it isn't subjective. He didn't label everything 'rare' or 'extreme', he simply stated that each country and each situation has its own unique set of factors. It's not about what your opinion is, it's about the fact you totally failed to back your points up with substantial evidence and when challenged you retreated saying 'he knows more about economics than me' and 'it's just my opinion'.

    Keynisan economics is not right wing. Unless you think massive government investment and public job creation schemes are right wing. This is a pathetic argument even by your standards, pretend left wing things that you like are actually right wing.







    Can't say I care, this is a forum
    Hardly demonstrates your self-proclaimed intelligence does it? You type like a ten-year old.
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    (Original post by heri2rs)
    Why are you rolling on the floor and laughing at the notion that the government is greedy? We spend £10bn simply in government and bureaucracy. The government isn't your friend.

    “Practical men who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." - John Maynard Keynes

    The economist being the government in this case
    But then again you sound like you think the rich should pay more tax for those who are less productive. How is that fair? If I came in and stole 50% of your hard earned income, is that right? Why is it okay when the government does it? Whilst you might say that the money goes to good causes like the NHS, what if I gave the money I stole off you to charity, is it still theft.

    Taxation is legalised robbery, nothing more
    Oh dear. We have another 'taxation is theft' person.

    You're not worth my time.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Coming on to a student forum to show off about your grades is incredibly sad and pathetic. Congratulations.


    No it isn't subjective. He didn't label everything 'rare' or 'extreme', he simply stated that each country and each situation has its own unique set of factors. It's not about what your opinion is, it's about the fact you totally failed to back your points up with substantial evidence and when challenged you retreated saying 'he knows more about economics than me' and 'it's just my opinion'.
    It is subjective because its your opinion
    I did back it up , it would be nice for you to point out some examples and I would be glad to expand. I clearly stated that the IMF and OCED are subjective and as you two claim they were wrong about austerity , they could easily be wrong again. You can view the same facts differently.
    The fact is he is older and knows more. As I said there are plenty of people who have economics degrees and are right wing and left wing which means both cases have a valid point.


    Keynesian economics isn't necessarily left wing , as it can be adapted to be right wing. The Tories in the 60's used a loose form of it and Regan arguably used it.

    You dodged all my points and this shows truly bad you are at debating. I do not need advice from you.



    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Coming on to a student forum to show off about your grades is incredibly sad and pathetic. Congratulations.
    QUOTE=Bornblue;69461212]Y when you yourself are a little kid who hasn't even taken his.

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    Actually I'm not bloating , you attacked me so I responded with the facts!
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    O

    You're not worth my time.
    And I'm patronizing now am I?
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    Actually I have taken a few and already have more A*'s than him and if I do worse I will eat my hat. We'll see on results on day how wrong you are!


    Again this is subjective, he labelled most cases 'rare' and 'extreme' and picked data patterns which suited him, both the IMF and the OCED are subjective ( after all he claims they were wrong about austerity, they could be wrong again)and you can view the same differently. Many economics graduates are left and right wing which obviously shows both sides have a valid case. I illustrated that Keynesian economics isn't necessarily left wing and right wing Keynesian economics does exist and has worked in the past. This is your biased opinion which I frankly don't really care about.





    Never said I was knowledgeable. Again this is subjective, I couldn't care less of your opinion.





    Can't say I care, this is a forum
    You're always on the IB forum. I guarantee you that this boasting will mean you will never get into investment banking.
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    (Original post by thatswrong.)
    You're always on the IB forum. I guarantee you that this boasting will mean you will never get into investment banking.
    This is online and I don't boast in real life. Plus I wasn't boasting , it was self defense.
    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Y when you yourself are a little kid who hasn't even taken his.
    I don't really need career advice from you as I have a plan and know exactly what I'm going to do. Thanks anyway!( unless your a banker ?)
    Anyway what year are you in/how old are you?
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    It is subjective because its your opinion
    I did back it up , it would be nice for you to point out some examples and I would be glad to expand. I clearly stated that the IMF and OCED are subjective and as you two claim they were wrong about austerity , they could easily be wrong again. You can view the same facts differently.
    The fact is he is older and knows more. As I said there are plenty of people who have economics degrees and are right wing and left wing which means both cases have a valid point.
    The fact that there are plenty of right wing economists does not mean they necessarily have a valid point. There were plenty of highly regarded people who thought the world was flat...
    It's not totally subjective. He simply got the better of you in that debate, given that you retreated and had no response to his arguments. If you watch two people have a fight and one knock the other out, it's not exactly 'subjective' as to who won the fight.

    Keynesian economics isn't necessarily left wing , as it can be adapted to be right wing. The Tories in the 60's used a loose form of it and Regan arguably used it.

    You dodged all my points and this shows truly bad you are at debating. I do not need advice from you.
    A right wing leader can utilise left wing economics. Which is exactly what happened. When the banks collapsed, George Bush bailed them out with an $800 billion package. It was an unquestionable example of socialism in action.

    The fact that a right wing leader was implementing it did not make it right wing.
    The Tories in the 60s were a lot more economically leftist than they are now. They accepted Keynsian economics, just as Labour in the late 90s accepted neoliberalism.

    That doesn't make Keynsian economics right wing or neoliberalism left wing.
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    This is online and I don't boast in real life. Plus I wasn't boasting , it was self defense.

    I don't really need career advice from you as I have a plan and know exactly what I'm going to do. Thanks anyway!( unless your a banker ?)
    Anyway what year are you in/how old are you?
    It's incredibly worrying that a self-proclaimed future banker cannot figure out how to quote properly.
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    This is online and I don't boast in real life. Plus I wasn't boasting , it was self defense.
    If you're boasting about predicted GCSE grades, boy, you're never breaking into the industry. Your online attitude isnt going to be much different to you in real life. Interviewers and HR are notorious for picking out arrogant idiots like you and it never ends well.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    The fact that there are plenty of right wing economists does not mean they necessarily have a valid point. There were plenty of highly regarded people who thought the world was flat...
    It's not totally subjective. He simply got the better of you in that debate, given that you retreated and had no response to his arguments. If you watch two people have a fight and one knock the other out, it's not exactly 'subjective' as to who won the fight.


    A right wing leader can utilise left wing economics. Which is exactly what happened. When the banks collapsed, George Bush bailed them out with an $800 billion package. It was an unquestionable example of socialism in action.

    The fact that a right wing leader was implementing it did not make it right wing and implemented right wing policies.
    The Tories in the 60s were a lot more economically leftist than they are now. They accepted Keynsian economics, just as Labour in the late 90s accepted neoliberalism.

    That doesn't make Keynsian economics right wing or neoliberalism left wing.
    Ignored my point about Regan.
    Agreed with you about the tories in the 60's were more left wing however still leaned towards the right.

    (Original post by Bornblue)
    The fact that there are plenty of right wing economists does not mean they necessarily have a valid point. There were plenty of highly regarded people who thought the world was flat...
    Could say the same about left wing economists
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    (Original post by thatswrong.)
    If you're boasting about predicted GCSE grades, boy, you're never breaking into the industry. Your online attitude isnt going to be much different to you in real life. Interviewers and HR are notorious for picking out arrogant idiots like you and it never ends well.
    Think what you need to think, its my problem not yours!
    You don't know me in real life so can't really judge me.
 
 
 
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