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    Do top Law Firms take what university you studied at into account?
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    Ofc they do, hence the reason they are top. The odd ones do blind testing, but the vast majority of any intake favours particular unis.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    Ofc they do, hence the reason they are top. The odd ones do blind testing, but the vast majority of any intake favours particular unis.
    Which uni's would you say they favour?
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    use something university law firm favour

    Theres a very detailed thread (its asked ona regular basis) on it which is a bit pointless repeating. You also dont give much information yourself or the firms interested in. Go to Good RG and get a good degree class..
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    They don't favour universities - I say this as someone who has worked for a decent number of firms.

    Where there is a slant towards certain universities is due to the following:

    Many firms ask for 340-360 UCAS points - this eliminates a huge proportion of lower ranked universities' student population, and so there is no point targeting them.

    Firms value people who keep themselves busy, namely with extra curricular activities - some universities, particularly those with college systems tend to provide a greater range of opportunities for their students to gain these opportunities and develop their skills.

    Higher ranked universities tend to have stronger ties with the legal profession. This could be through historic alumni, it could be where they have academic staff who have come from that background, or even tend to be set up better to get corporate sponsorship from the legal professions.

    Higher ranked universities also tend to spend more resource on careers advice services. Those that don't, tend to benefit from the above point and get their ties to the profession to provide much better careers guidance.

    As with the above point, recruitment is a bit of a continuous circle. The more people who are recruited from one university, the more likely they are to pass on their advice to students in future year groups. A group mentality also forms - a group of students at Oxford will be far more ambitious and have less fear than those at somewhere like Southampton or Reading.

    Stronger ranked universities attract a stronger quality of student. That's not just intellect - it will probably also be work experience, career motivation and most importantly written communication skills.

    Therefore why certain universities are seen in higher proportions than others within the legal professions is because you are far more likely to find those with the relevant skills and motivations at those universities.


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    Do top Law Firms take what university you studied at into account?
    Decreasingly:

    http://www.suttontrust.com/newsarchi...ruitment-bias/

    https://targetjobs.co.uk/career-sect...bout-diversity

    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016...hips-mentoring

    http://www.contextualrecruitment.co.uk
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    They do target certain unis in terms of visiting them more often, running uni-exclusive career events, but I'm increasingly sceptical as to whether there's enough of a difference in the name reputation between non-Oxbridge universities. Going to a reputable uni won't save you if your ECs are lacking or your grades are ****.

    The Chambers student "report" on this is utter junk - it doesn't control for the number of individuals from a university that actually applying, the quality of the applicants, or even the specific numbers of people they found in total at each law firm (it just uses ratios).
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    All very nice, but I'd still rather have a degree from one of 5-10 unis where the majority of the tops firms intake comes from.

    JohnGreek I thought the Chambers survey backed it up in numbers although its several months since I read it. Someone said CC do blind applications now. Has there been a change on their intake to include more ex polys and colleges?
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    All very nice, but I'd still rather have a degree from one of 5-10 unis where the majority of the tops firms intake comes from.

    JohnGreek I thought the Chambers survey backed it up in numbers although its several months since I read it. Someone said CC do blind applications now. Has there been a change on their intake to include more ex polys and colleges?
    What the Chambers information really fails to deal with is application numbers from those universities in the first place.

    One firm I worked for would get nearly a quarter of its vac scheme applications from 2 universities alone. When you are getting 100s of applications of Oxford and single figures from universities like Gloucestershire, there is bound to be a distinct difference in representation from those universities in their cohorts, even if you took out all the other factors I mentioned above.


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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    All very nice, but I'd still rather have a degree from one of 5-10 unis where the majority of the tops firms intake comes from.

    JohnGreek I thought the Chambers survey backed it up in numbers although its several months since I read it. Someone said CC do blind applications now. Has there been a change on their intake to include more ex polys and colleges?
    CC only do blind recruitment at the interview stage. It doesn't mean there isn't a judgement made at the application stage (unless you go via their Intelligent Aid competition).


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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    All very nice, but I'd still rather have a degree from one of 5-10 unis where the majority of the tops firms intake comes from.

    JohnGreek I thought the Chambers survey backed it up in numbers although its several months since I read it. Someone said CC do blind applications now. Has there been a change on their intake to include more ex polys and colleges?
    I don't think that the Chambers survey included figures - it only represented the data with a bar chart, one of whose axes (the number of pupils from x university) did not include numbers. They claimed that they did it stop people from 'nitpicking' about the sample size, which is funny considering that they themselves stated it earlier up the report (it was around 2000 people or something). We may be talking about different reports - the one I remember was the one mentioned in the OP here: https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=3899945

    I think that CC doing uni blind admissions nowadays is true, even though it's easy to slip in the name of the uni in one of the long answer questions which ask you about extracurriculars and stuff.
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    I suppose what we would need is some actual data on the success ratios of applicants from diffeent unis. It probably doesnt exist so the Chambers article I read looked at it based on where the actuall trainees graduated (journalists arent always the best at doing this sort of analysis) Bit rough and ready but pretty telling as it was the same old unis consistently (I'd much rather have a degree from that group of unis). I'm not invested as its been done in detail many times before.
 
 
 
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