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    Can't remember if I actually said anything on this, but in any case, it's a definite no from me - the current mandatory life sentence is not over the top in my opinion. It still allows the offender the ability to live life outside prison after x years, but I feel it's paramount for the safety of the public that these people are monitored.

    What this Bill comes down to, is whether trying to appease those who've killed someone, is more important than helping to reassure the public that they are as safe as possible.
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    This bill is soft on crime. Do you want your children growing up with murderers in the streets?!?!

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    Looks like I missed a genuinely interesting debate after quite a while. Second reading, please.
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    (Original post by SoggyCabbages)
    This bill is soft on crime. Do you want your children growing up with murderers in the streets?!?!

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    (A Skype exclusive meme I am now giving you all the honour of seeing in the forums, this is what could happen if the bill passes)
    You better be careful, you'll be off to Siberia if you keep spouting counter-revolutionary propaganda like this...
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    Looks like I missed a genuinely interesting debate after quite a while. Second reading, please.
    We do plan on releasing a second reading. :yy:
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    Utterly misleading garbage and frankly a reprehensible and disgusting attempt to water down an already mushy criminal justice system. Both of the examples below used to support the bill would normally be prosecuted as voluntary manslaughter and yet you try to pass it off as if they'd get murder sentences just to sell your pro-criminal filth! The real motivation of the bill is stated, you think that harsher sentences don't have a deterrent effect. This attitude to crime and justice is precisely the reason we have astronomical re-offending rates and chaotic disorder in prisons, criminals don't fear the law. That's the fault of YOUR flawed, naive and stupid thinking.

    Oh, and if you're so concerned about a man being prosecuted for killing somebody for self defense why don't you pass legislation exempting those who use force on thugs from being prosecuted?

    This is simply shameful apologism for the worst of the worst in society. We should be discussing toughening our sentences and prison conditions and possibly reintroducing capital punishment, not removing automatic life tariffs.

    The government's proposal puts the very concept of justice in disrepute.
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    This bill is in cessation.
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    This bill has gone to a second reading.
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    This bill has gone to a second reading.
 
 
 
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