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    (Original post by l'etranger)
    Why does civilisation matter? If all goes to **** in this country I'll move.
    To where? a country that does have free education?

    I agree with aboloshing NHS (apart fromA&E or life threatening situations).
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    (Original post by Pikachū)
    To where? a country that does have free education?

    I agree with aboloshing NHS (apart fromA&E or life threatening situations).
    Either a wealthy city state built by capitalism of become a wildman in America. Literally those are my ideals, gangster banker city states and pioneer frontier life. Cities like London are the most degenerate government funded hellholes on the world, I'd sooner live in Iraq with all the terrorism and violence.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Are you an ancap?
    Black and yellow til the day I die.
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    (Original post by l'etranger)
    Either a wealthy city state built by capitalism of become a wildman in America. Literally those are my ideals, gangster banker city states and pioneer frontier life. Cities like London are the most degenerate government funded hellholes on the world, I'd sooner live in Iraq with all the terrorism and violence.
    Well, each to their own I suppose...
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    (Original post by l'etranger)
    Either a wealthy city state built by capitalism of become a wildman in America. Literally those are my ideals, gangster banker city states and pioneer frontier life. Cities like London are the most degenerate government funded hellholes on the world, I'd sooner live in Iraq with all the terrorism and violence.
    Something like Monaco? Or Liechtenstein? Don't know much about them so can't say
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    (Original post by Pikachū)
    Something like Monaco? Or Liechtenstein? Don't know much about them so can't say
    Yesss. I will be happy when the West falls from power.
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    (Original post by l'etranger)
    Yesss. I will be happy when the West falls from power.
    Nightmare. China will care about themselves only.

    Regardless I don't think it'll happen in our lifetime. US is still lightyears ahead of anyone militarily.
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    (Original post by Pikachū)
    Nightmare. China will care about themselves only.

    Regardless I don't think it'll happen in our lifetime. US is still lightyears ahead of anyone militarily.
    Cannot wait. They're like effective sociopaths, you can understand them easily. The West has too many hang-ups. SJW's wouldn't get far in China at all.
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    (Original post by l'etranger)
    Cannot wait. They're like effective sociopaths, you can understand them easily. The West has too many hang-ups. SJW's wouldn't get far in China at all.
    /pol/ has taught me they're all soulless, and I agree. I have no doubt they will annex Siberia/Mongolia once they get strong enough.
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    (Original post by Zargabaath)

    ie the policy which had held the US together since the Missouri Compromise of 1820.

    And of course the rest of the world abolished chattel slavery by incremental action and without 750,000 dead on the field of battle.
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    (Original post by Pikachū)
    /pol/ has taught me they're all soulless, and I agree. I have no doubt they will annex Siberia/Mongolia once they get strong enough.
    I would respect them if they did it and I would respect Russia if they nuked them for it. I hate the way the West claims moral superiority and tries to play world police, White people always criticise the British empire for its treatment of Africans and Asians, but actually it was the same mentality which made White people do that, which makes us create the UN or play peacekeeper in Africa. We think the rest of the world is stupid and that if we micromanage them enough they will be like us and it will make them better people, when it fact that's the reason they hate us. It's all the same Biblical White man's burden ******** from the moment we took the first slave to the moment we sent UN peacekeepers to rape Black people in the Central African Republic.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    What I mean about defensive is that the left is basically deing as a strong political and economic force and to hold any real left position is to place oneself on the fringe which means you have to be able to argue against so much that so many consider common sense which then makes you start to doubt yourself.
    I feel your pain.

    For quite some time I was on the left, a Trot, indeed, and spent many fruitless hours arguing against people on the right who used dreadful weapons like common sense.

    Then I decided to join them.

    Come and join us on the dark side. You won't be cool or "right on" any more. But you will, at least, be thinking and espousing common sense.

    It is intellectually liberating, believe me.
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    (Original post by astutehirstute)
    I feel your pain.

    For quite some time I was on the left, a Trot, indeed, and spent many fruitless hours arguing against people on the right who used dreadful weapons like common sense.

    Then I decided to join them.

    Come and join us on the dark side. You won't be cool or "right on" any more. But you will, at least, be thinking and espousing common sense.

    It is intellectually liberating, believe me.
    Well a lot of the common sense is common sense in the way it used to be common sense that the earth was the centre of the universe. Economics obsession with equilibrium for example. I imagine it was hard being Galileo.
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    (Original post by MrDystopia)
    If it puts your mind at ease, there are a range of political views in the staff.
    It must be just the left wing ones censoring perfectly unexceptionable posts then.

    Purely on the grounds of personal political disagreement.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    Well a lot of the common sense is common sense in the way it used to be common sense that the earth was the centre of the universe. Economics obsession with equilibrium for example. I imagine it was hard being Galileo.
    No it is the common sense of the earth orbiting the sun as a small speck in the universe.

    There is no left wing Galileo nowadays, that is for sure. After all, he is a dead white man so what did he know anyway?

    Far better to get our ideas of the cosmos from the Aztecs...

    https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...ersity-courses
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    I actually don't believe you
    Ukip: Rueue
    Tories: Dystopia, Financier, Adam, Jarred (SL), Mad Vlad (best mod ever, his attitude to people was hilarious), The History Bore
    Lib Dem: Airmed
    Green: Miser (SL)
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    (Original post by nulli tertius)
    ie the policy which had held the US together since the Missouri Compromise of 1820.

    And of course the rest of the world abolished chattel slavery by incremental action and without 750,000 dead on the field of battle.
    As much as people love Lincoln for freeing the slaves, is he not quoted as saying something along the lines of 'if i could win this war without freeing a single slave, i would'.

    I'm not surprised at much of what pre-civil war US did given that children often take after the parent.

    (Original post by l'etranger)
    I would respect them if they did it and I would respect Russia if they nuked them for it. I hate the way the West claims moral superiority and tries to play world police, White people always criticise the British empire for its treatment of Africans and Asians, but actually it was the same mentality which made White people do that, which makes us create the UN or play peacekeeper in Africa. We think the rest of the world is stupid and that if we micromanage them enough they will be like us and it will make them better people, when it fact that's the reason they hate us. It's all the same Biblical White man's burden ******** from the moment we took the first slave to the moment we sent UN peacekeepers to rape Black people in the Central African Republic.
    That's because it's mostly true. Even the Chinese today are not free.

    Hell, we left the Africans alone 60 years ago and they are pouring into Europe. If we left the Middle East tomorrow we'd either have a genocidal dictator or an ISIS state on our doorstep.

    The world is chaotic and though you may think the west is horrid, our actions are the least worst solution.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    As much as people love Lincoln for freeing the slaves, is he not quoted as saying something along the lines of 'if i could win this war without freeing a single slave, i would'.

    I'm not surprised at much of what pre-civil war US did given that children often take after the parent.
    In the last 10 years or so, new information has come out about Somerset's Case. That is the case from 1772 where the Lord Mansfield is misreported as saying "The air of England is too pure for a slave to breathe; let the black go free". What has turned up in American archives is the sheer number of American colonists who were in court in London observing the case. American reaction to this abolitionist decision has been written out of the narrative of the American Revolution and is only now being reclaimed.

    The British Empire of course abolishes slavery in 1833.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Ukip: Rueue
    Tories: Dystopia, Financier, Adam, Jarred (SL), Mad Vlad (best mod ever, his attitude to people was hilarious), The History Bore
    Lib Dem: Airmed
    Green: Miser (SL)
    Labour: Probably a few
    ehh I'll have to see it to believe it
    what about gothic kitten? they report like every other day for nothing
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