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    (Original post by nulli tertius)
    But the man who ultimately carries the can for railway safety, Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Railways, says:

    "There are clear safety benefits compared to the current method of operation using a Conductor because the driver will be able to monitor the Platform Train Interface for a short distance as the train leaves the station."

    http://orr.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_...nuary-2017.pdf
    There have been fatal and near-fatal incidents involving DOO recently. Drivers can only see the train until it hits 4mph, whereas a guard has head out all the way. All the **** that gets on the cameras and kicks them out of alignment only makes it worse.
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    There have been fatal and near-fatal incidents involving DOO recently. Drivers can only see the train until it hits 4mph, whereas a guard has head out all the way. All the **** that gets on the cameras and kicks them out of alignment only makes it worse.
    I image there have also been fatal and near fatal incidents involving trains that aren't DOO sooooo....

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    I image there have also been fatal and near fatal incidents involving trains that aren't DOO sooooo....

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    More with trains that are DOO.

    I can find at least three PTI incidents in the last 3 years on DOO trains

    One on a non-DOO train

    And an evacuation that led to a fatality on a DOO train.
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    (Original post by GW43125)
    There have been fatal and near-fatal incidents involving DOO recently. Drivers can only see the train until it hits 4mph, whereas a guard has head out all the way. All the **** that gets on the cameras and kicks them out of alignment only makes it worse.
    How long is class 377 set? 5 cars? How many opening windows are there in each carriage for the guard to look out of? I couldn't see any on the photos I googled. I could only see an opening window in the trailing cab. So the guard might have his head out of the window leaving Victoria but after that, no chance.
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    (Original post by GW43125)
    More with trains that are DOO.

    I can find at least three PTI incidents in the last 3 years on DOO trains

    One on a non-DOO train

    And an evacuation that led to a fatality on a DOO train.
    Then why did the Rail Standards and Safety Board say:

    "We have 30 years of data which we have analysed. We have found that the driver performing the task [ie doors] does not increase the risk to passengers at all."
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    (Original post by TheGuyReturns)
    What exactly do you plan to do when 50% walk out on you? Strikes generally don't consist of just one person walking out.
    And thus why it should be not allowed for them to occur so easily...
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    (Original post by NI30241834)
    By the use of a complaints commision modeled on the ones already used in the police and the army. Also people are free to walk away if they don't want to work(except in the army) so the government would be well advised to treat them well if they don't want to loose their workforce.
    The bold is literally the definition of a strike, people walking away because they don't want to work under the current conditions. All employers would be well advised to treat their employees well, that doesn't mean they'll actually do it.
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    (Original post by GW43125)
    More with trains that are DOO.

    I can find at least three PTI incidents in the last 3 years on DOO trains

    One on a non-DOO train

    And an evacuation that led to a fatality on a DOO train.
    Funny that because I'm looking at the list of accidents and there are two common themes: 1) DOO or not DOO would make no difference, 2) most of them are to do with level crossings. Oh, and only two fatalities this decade, one was a car on a level crossings, the other a passenger falling between the train and platform (and BTW that was the guard's fault)

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