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    (Original post by ByronicHero)
    For the record, there are situations where I think it would be legitimate to decline the party. I wouldn't claim Petros was being partisan unless he obviously was.

    It just doesn't seem sensible for any of those situations to include me, J&T and a couple of other members being willing to join a party that is creating and debating legislation before it even exists. If that is an insufficient standard of participation, the consistent thing will then be to shut down UKIP and the Greens as a minimum.
    I would certainly be very surprised if the new Speaker didn't approve you if you maintain this level of activity.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    I would certainly be very surprised if the new Speaker didn't approve you if you maintain this level of activity.
    Indeed, and activity will increase considerably as soon as we have a forum to start collaborating in. Unfortunately, I anticipate a second round of voting, so will have to wait a while. I have 1000 things I should be doing anyway, so it's probably not a bad thing :lol:
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    I've burned those bridges???

    We're still a centrist party on a centrist policy platform, equally prepared to work with the left and the right.

    I'm probably as annoyed as the Tories - it will cost us votes at the next election - but it's niche enough and there's no reason it shouldn't actually form if it can get the members.

    I've already spoken to people that may wish to defect. They know where they stand and the decision is theres. No hard feelings - it's just politics, and the Liberals have the membership to cope easily.

    Also, you say it like I've been rejecting centre left people. I've continued to recruit both left-libertarians and right-libertarians, it's just that the left are better at taking those members off me than the right


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    I can vouch for this. Petros hasn't tried to move the party in either direction during my time in the Liberals and has remained very open-minded about our diverse range of opinions.

    The challenge for the Liberals going forward is not going to be portraying themselves as centrist (they will be more centrist than ever), but it will be distinguishing that centrism from the centrist factions in the Labour and Tory parties. And the Green Party, if it's leadership becomes more competent than it currently is, proposes a dilemma for them as well.

    Still, the Liberals shouldn't be as worried as Rakas and the Tories about this.
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    (Original post by Gladstone1885)
    I can vouch for this. Petros hasn't tried to move the party in either direction during my time in the Liberals and has remained very open-minded about our diverse range of opinions.

    The challenge for the Liberals going forward is not going to be portraying themselves as centrist (they will be more centrist than ever), but it will be distinguishing that centrism from the centrist factions in the Labour and Tory parties. And the Green Party, if it's leadership becomes more competent than it currently is, proposes a dilemma for them as well.

    Still, the Liberals shouldn't be as worried as Rakas and the Tories about this.
    It would be more believable were it not for the fact that Tory MP's appear to understand the value of loyalty.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    It would be more believable were it not for the fact that Tory MP's appear to understand the value of loyalty.
    On the public forums maybe


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    (Original post by Gladstone1885)
    On the public forums maybe

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    I will be highly surprised if any Tory MP decides to leave for a small, unimportant party.
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    (Original post by Gladstone1885)
    I can vouch for this. Petros hasn't tried to move the party in either direction during my time in the Liberals and has remained very open-minded about our diverse range of opinions.
    That's because Petros had already shifted the party to the right before you joined.

    There is such a thing as being too open minded. In my view, Petros damaged the Liberals by his willingness to accept everyone and anyone. As long as members said they were (or promised to act, in Hazzer's case) economically liberal then he turned a blind eye to the fact that they were out and out Tories without a social democratic bone in their body. He sacrificed a core set of beliefs and party unity for numbers, but if the Libertarian party takes off and people defect, then it was all for nothing.
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    The idea that anybody has a right to not be offended is ridiculous. If you don't like somebody's views, challenge them. We won't pander to fainting couch feminists or campus crazies. Your right to say whatever you like is protected if you support us
    With this statement, you have secured my membership.

    Bit of information: I'm a right-libertarian/minarchist/something along those lines.

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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    I will be highly surprised if any Tory MP decides to leave for a small, unimportant party.
    We shall see
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    (Original post by _gcx)
    With this statement, you have secured my membership.

    Bit of information: I'm a right-libertarian/minarchist/something along those lines.

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    Jesus Christ, that's an anarcho-capitalist stance mate, I consider myself a minarchist and I'll link you my political compass, I think ByronicHero will still accept you however.
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    (Original post by _gcx)
    With this statement, you have secured my membership.

    Bit of information: I'm a right-libertarian/minarchist/something along those lines.

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    Is mine


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    A bit off topic, but is the image I post viewable? It isn't on my end:

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    (Original post by Gladstone1885)
    A bit off topic, but is the image I post viewable? It isn't on my end:

    No
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    Weird, I can only post images from computer, not URL

    My submission for the inevitable logo contest:

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    (Original post by _gcx)
    With this statement, you have secured my membership.

    Bit of information: I'm a right-libertarian/minarchist/something along those lines.

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    Hey,

    Welcome aboard. I will add you to the list.

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    (Original post by Gladstone1885)
    Weird, I can only post images from computer, not URL

    My submission for the inevitable logo contest:

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    The logo that is in my OP is the one from the old party. I think a new one would provide a sense of renewal.

    I really like that one, actually. :yes:
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    It would be more believable were it not for the fact that Tory MP's appear to understand the value of loyalty.
    Are you flattered by the fact you appear to have been mistaken for Tory leader?
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Are you flattered by the fact you appear to have been mistaken for Tory leader?
    Don't you recall the Liberal thread accusing me of being a devilish mastermind. The power behind the throne.
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    (Original post by Gladstone1885)
    Weird, I can only post images from computer, not URL

    My submission for the inevitable logo contest:

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    I like that logo but the pink text is a bit too dazzling.
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    I like that logo but the pink text is a bit too dazzling.
    Why don't u join the libertarians? Deputy leader Quamquam!
 
 
 
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