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    (Original post by Obiejess)
    Therefore identical twins are also not people.

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    Still have two biological parents.
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    (Original post by mr T 999)
    Yes it'll be like killing a twin except that's not a twin.

    Genetic engineering should be legalised, imagine all the stuff we can do. We can replace the entire army with genetically enhanced super soilders, we'll have one of the strongest millatary in the world.

    I can genetically grow myself a girlfriend with perfect boobs/ass and body :sexface:



    But what if we keep the clone unconsciouss and In a coma like state throught it's development? It won't have had the chance to live life or expereinces consciousess.
    GE is just a nice way of saying eugenics, also it would be highly commercialised and could potentially widen the gap between rich and poor since the rich would dominate it and could potentially use it to eradicate all illnesses, defects or disabilities.
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    Still have two biological parents.
    The second twin is a copy of the first twin who had two biological parents. Essentially the same thing. Can't believe you think it's okay to just harvest people who have as much human emotion as you do just because they came to exist in a different way.

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    (Original post by mr T 999)
    Views on human cloning? :holmes:
    Only to make an army of Jacob Rees-Moggs
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    (Original post by mr T 999)
    Yes it'll be like killing a twin except that's not a twin.

    Genetic engineering should be legalised, imagine all the stuff we can do. We can replace the entire army with genetically enhanced super soilders, we'll have one of the strongest millatary in the world.

    I can genetically grow myself a girlfriend with perfect boobs/ass and body :sexface:



    But what if we keep the clone unconsciouss and In a coma like state throught it's development? It won't have had the chance to live life or expereinces consciousess.
    Then we're depriving an individual of life. It sounds like your plan is to essentially enslave the clones. Is that anywhere near ethical?
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    (Original post by _gcx)
    Then we're depriving an individual of life. It sounds like your plan is to essentially enslave the clones. Is that anywhere near ethical?
    So libertarian amirite

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    (Original post by Gladstone1885)
    Only to make an army of Jacob Rees-Moggs
    Nah, an army of Daniel Hannans would be better
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    GE is just a nice way of saying eugenics, also it would be highly commercialised and could potentially widen the gap between rich and poor since the rich would dominate it and could potentially use it to eradicate all illnesses, defects or disabilities.
    Just realised how much of a leftie I sound here, dear me I must be converting...

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    (Original post by Connor27)
    Just realised how much of a leftie I sound here, dear me I must be converting...

    RayApparently: where do I sign up to join Labour?
    Skip the middleman and join the Socialists; at this rate you're bound to end up fitting in with us
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    So Donald Trump is writing an executive order to give way for the Dakota Access Pipeline, a project that he himself and a number of people in his administration have vested interest in.

    This is surely enough to have him impeached. Surely.

    How can anyone support this man?

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    That was supposed to be posted in the bar, but seeing as a few members of your proposed party have claimed to support him, its fine here methinks.

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    So Donald Trump is writing an executive order to give way for the Dakota Access Pipeline, a project that he himself and a number of people in his administration have vested interest in.

    This is surely enough to have him impeached. Surely.

    How can anyone support this man?

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    How does he have a vested interest? Is it because he once owned shares in the company?
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    So Donald Trump is writing an executive order to give way for the Dakota Access Pipeline, a project that he himself and a number of people in his administration have vested interest in.

    This is surely enough to have him impeached. Surely.

    How can anyone support this man?

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    Lol so it's going to bring us more oil what's the big deal? Have you read the EPA's environmental impact report released a few years back? Pretty benign risks
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    Just realised how much of a leftie I sound here, dear me I must be converting...

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    Common decency = leftie? You said it mate.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Common decency = leftie? You said it mate.
    Was thinking more the "rich people are inherently evil" narrative that could be interpreted from that.
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    Was thinking more the "rich people are inherently evil" narrative that could be interpreted from that.
    The narrative that one would read from that is that inequality is not a good thing. Which, usually with qualifications, is the essence of left-wing politics and the antithesis of right-wing politics.

    As a side point, it is not that rich people are evil - it is that wealth (combined with the sort of technology you lot are taking about) would no doubt lead to immensely unjust inequalities. Social mobility would be a thing of the past and humanity would drift into ever more stratified classes. If you believe that people should be free to make the most of their lives then you need to support some baseline of equality so that everyone has a chance - otherwise how are they really free?
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    GE is just a nice way of saying eugenics, also it would be highly commercialised and could potentially widen the gap between rich and poor since the rich would dominate it and could potentially use it to eradicate all illnesses, defects or disabilities.
    When did you become such a leftie lol thought you were towards the right


    (Original post by _gcx)
    Then we're depriving an individual of life. It sounds like your plan is to essentially enslave the clones. Is that anywhere near ethical?
    There is no ethics when it comes to human cloning. Why do you think human cloning is frowned upon in society and it's banned in most countries? As the failure rate is quite high and many clones will not survive the 1st year of life. It also requires a surrogate mother to give birth to them and not many will volunteer. Religions also forbids us from creating human clones as we tempering with human lives.

    So when it comes human cloning there is no ethics lol
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    What is the Libertarian position on this song? ByronicHero

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    What is the Libertarian position on this song? ByronicHero

    We would seek to uphold your right to listen to whatever music you like, irrespective of its content.

    On a personal level, it is a perfectly serviceable pop song.

    Finally, if the good people of Rotterdam of Rome visit Liverpool after we've turned it into a libertarian utopia they will be extremely impressed.
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    Finally, if the good people of Rotterdam of Rome visit Liverpool after we've turned it into a libertarian utopia they will be extremely impressed.
    :rofl: Good to know.
 
 
 
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