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    (Original post by _gcx)
    Currently myself, Connor27,Gladstone1885, hazzer1998, heri2rs, joecphillips (others, 3/4, who probably don't want to be named, have expressed interest in joining, but have not got back to us yet, after the recent formation)
    Not Byronic? And if they don't want to be named, then can you legitimately count them as those wanting to join...? If they want to join, and for their position in the party to be legitimately be counted, in terms of approving the Party, they should certainly be named.
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Not Byronic? And if they don't want to be named, then can you legitimately count them as those wanting to join...? If they want to join, and for their position in the party to be legitimately be counted, in terms of approving the Party, they should certainly be named.
    Have you read earlier in the thread?
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    (Original post by _gcx)
    Have you read earlier in the thread?
    Clearly I hadn't, or I would not have asked. I have now though, and seen why he is not. That still does not answer my other question though.
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Not Byronic? And if they don't want to be named, then can you legitimately count them as those wanting to join...? If they want to join, and for their position in the party to be legitimately be counted, in terms of approving the Party, they should certainly be named.
    Surely the leader of May's Moderates has the ability to return to the first page of this thread and read the member list?

    All in good fun
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    (Original post by Gladstone1885)
    Surely the leader of May's Moderates has the ability to return to the first page of this thread and read the member list?

    All in good fun
    Surely you have the ability of reading the post above? Again, avoiding the other question I asked...?
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Surely you have the ability of reading the post above? Again, avoiding the other question I asked...?
    Each of the members listed is active within the party, as in has been messaging in the skype chat, on the offsite forum and responding to PM's every day for the last week or so.

    The rest I have not listed because they aren't active, those include KvothTheArcane, TitanCream and someone else whose name I forgot.
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    (Original post by Gladstone1885)
    Each of the members listed is active within the party, as in has been messaging in the skype chat, on the offsite forum and responding to PM's every day for the last week or so.

    The rest I have not listed because they aren't active, those include KvothTheArcane, TitanCream and someone else whose name I forgot.
    Fair enough, in particular asking about the latter, which you have answered, thank you.
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    What does the Libertarian Party consider to be libertarian? Would the Libertarian Party consider someone like Lauren Southern to be libertarian?
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    (Original post by Unown Uzer)
    What does the Libertarian Party consider to be libertarian? Would the Libertarian Party consider someone like Lauren Southern to be libertarian?
    I'm not actually familiar with that person, but to me libertarianism involves a full embracing of free market economics, as well as a laissez-faire, liberal attitude to social issues.

    Socialists are economic authoritarians while conservatives (small "c") are social authoritarians.
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    I'm not actually familiar with that person, but to me libertarianism involves a full embracing of free market economics, as well as a laissez-faire, liberal attitude to social issues.

    Socialists are economic authoritarians while conservatives (small "c" are social authoritarians.
    She's a Canadian 'libertarian' who's attempting to make a career out of winding up feminists, Muslims and activists, who also started an event called "The Triggering" which involved right-wingers on Twitter trying to provoke women, transgender people and rape victims the day after International Women's Day.
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    (Original post by Saoirse:3)
    She's a Canadian 'libertarian' who's attempting to make a career out of winding up feminists, Muslims and activists, who also started an event called "The Triggering" which involved right-wingers on Twitter trying to provoke women, transgender people and rape victims the day after International Women's Day.
    So you agree that she's great, presumably?
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    (Original post by Saoirse:3)
    She's a Canadian 'libertarian' who's attempting to make a career out of winding up feminists, Muslims and activists, who also started an event called "The Triggering" which involved right-wingers on Twitter trying to provoke women, transgender people and rape victims the day after International Women's Day.
    I'm familiar with her. I think its important to make the distinction between people who are rabidly obsessed with being politically incorrect and people who embrace the philosophical ideas of libertarianism. We are a Libertarian Party, not a piss people off for the fun of it party.

    I personally think people like Milo Yiannopoulos are as counter-productive and distasteful as their counterparts on the left.
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    (Original post by Gladstone1885)
    I'm familiar with her. I think its important to make the distinction between people who are rabidly obsessed with being politically incorrect and people who embrace the philosophical ideas of libertarianism. We are a Libertarian Party, not a piss people off for the fun of it party.

    I personally think people like Milo Yiannopoulos are as counter-productive and distasteful as their counterparts on the left.
    However, surely you agree that nobody has a right to not be offended? As much as you may not support the actions of people who goad others on social media, do you agree that they should be allowed to say whatever they like? Milo et al can definitely be counter-productive, but they also help to erode some of the frankly laughable ideas propagated by campus-activists and their ilk which, if anything, do far more damage to those who are actually victims of abuse than the likes of Lauren S.
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    (Original post by Gladstone1885)
    I'm familiar with her. I think its important to make the distinction between people who are rabidly obsessed with being politically incorrect and people who embrace the philosophical ideas of libertarianism. We are a Libertarian Party, not a piss people off for the fun of it party.

    I personally think people like Milo Yiannopoulos are as counter-productive and distasteful as their counterparts on the left.
    People say this a lot, but I don't see it. Milo is an attention whoring egotist but he's never assaulted, burned or otherwise harmed anything or anyone.
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    (Original post by ByronicHero)
    However, surely you agree that nobody has a right to not be offended? As much as you may not support the actions of people who goad others on social media, do you agree that they should be allowed to say whatever they like? Milo et al can definitely be counter-productive, but they also help to erode some of the frankly laughable ideas propagated by campus-activists and their ilk which, if anything, do far more damage to those who are actually victims of abuse than the likes of Lauren S.
    Definitely, my dislike for them is only a personal opinion and unlike radical leftists I don't believe in restricting people's natural rights in order to enforce my view of morality.

    You're probably right on that second point. A blonde-haired poof up on stage making fun of safe spaces and trigger warnings is a more entertaining way to get a political message across to youth than the traditional messengers. But of course he is also a **** to everyone just for the sake of being a **** which is where my objection comes in. And then there's the fact that his discourse doesn't at all unite people, which is the only way the culture war will ever be resolved.
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    (Original post by jape)
    People say this a lot, but I don't see it. Milo is an attention whoring egotist but he's never assaulted, burned or otherwise harmed anything or anyone.
    That's a good point, because people on the right are usually more peaceful in their protests and statements than people on the left. But he's still too needlessly offensive and provocative for my taste, as are his army of minions on Twitter and alternative media.
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    (Original post by jape)
    People say this a lot, but I don't see it. Milo is an attention whoring egotist but he's never assaulted, burned or otherwise harmed anything or anyone.
    He dislikes atheists and libertarians for ridiculous reasons. Basically, I've never heard anything come out of his mouth that wasn't pure bile or boast. 0 substance.
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    (Original post by RainbowMan)
    He dislikes atheists and libertarians for ridiculous reasons. Basically, I've never heard anything come out of his mouth that wasn't pure bile or boast. 0 substance.
    He has his moments, but he's definitely 98% bull****. Still not as bad as the people he's railing against though. You can ignore bull****, it's harder to ignore getting hit with a huge stick and having your classroom lit on fire.
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    What are your plans for your first Party Bill/piece of output?
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    What are your plans for your first Party Bill/piece of output?
    We have two bills currently in the works that will be submitted shortly.
 
 
 
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