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    "In fact, however, the liberty of the poor is at stake in such conflict situations. What is at stake is the liberty of the poor not to be interfered with in taking from the surplus possessions of the rich what is necessary to satisfy their basic needs."
    I'm kind of surprised that the article did such a good job of explaining our moral opinions only to fail to grasp them in the next paragraph. (It is not "liberty" to take the surpluses of the rich, that is theft and thus a violation of property rights)

    The article goes on to make further faulty logic arguments, and the summary provided at the end is simply not an accurate summary of the information laid out in the article. Its like this guy is on drugs trying to frantically convince an opposing ideology of why they can't logically exist, while decades of thought and research support the idea that we can and should.
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    (Original post by Gladstone1885)
    "In fact, however, the liberty of the poor is at stake in such conflict situations. What is at stake is the liberty of the poor not to be interfered with in taking from the surplus possessions of the rich what is necessary to satisfy their basic needs."
    I'm kind of surprised that the article did such a good job of explaining our moral opinions only to fail to grasp them in the next paragraph. (It is not "liberty" to take the surpluses of the rich, that is theft and thus a violation of property rights)

    The article goes on to make further faulty logic arguments, and the summary provided at the end is simply not an accurate summary of the information laid out in the article. Its like this guy is on drugs trying to frantically convince an opposing ideology of why they can't logically exist, while decades of thought and research support the idea that we can and should.
    On drugs trying to convince the other guys they can't exist? Sounds like a libertarian to me

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    On drugs trying to convince the other guys they can't exist? Sounds like a libertarian to me

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    Not us
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    I don't really care about what the porcupines think, but does the libertarian "party" intend to actually get any of its stuff voted on because I've noticed a recent tendency to let things auto withdraw rather than be sent to division?

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    I don't really care about what the porcupines think, but does the libertarian "party" intend to actually get any of its stuff voted on because I've noticed a recent tendency to let things auto withdraw rather than be sent to division?

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    B1132 is currently in division in case you have missed it
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    B1132 is currently in division in case you have missed it
    I meant serious bills have any of those been sent to division (not that there have been many)?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    I don't really care about what the porcupines think, but does the libertarian "party" intend to actually get any of its stuff voted on because I've noticed a recent tendency to let things auto withdraw rather than be sent to division?

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    Better to revise bills after hearing members' opinions and come back with something stronger than to introduce bills we all know won't pass.
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    (Original post by Gladstone1885)
    Better to revise bills after hearing members' opinions and come back with something stronger than to introduce bills we all know won't pass.
    So how many months do we have to wait for your basic arithmetic, or how about the bills for which no adjustments can realistically be made which regardless are withdrawn. It's easy to pump out joke bills and things you know won't pass.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    So how many months do we have to wait for your basic arithmetic, or how about the bills for which no adjustments can realistically be made which regardless are withdrawn. It's easy to pump out joke bills and things you know won't pass.

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    Nah man we don't write joke bills when an opposition bill triggers us, that's you guys in the UKIP-JD caucus
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    (Original post by Gladstone1885)
    Nah man we don't write joke bills when an opposition bill triggers us, that's you guys in the UKIP-JD caucus
    Prsom for the 'UKIP-JD caucus'. :laugh:
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    Nah man we don't write joke bills when an opposition bill triggers us, that's you guys in the UKIP-JD caucus
    Which is why you have been doing so?

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Which is why you have been doing so?

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    You're confusing joke bills with bills that repeal outdated language. A joke bill would be, I don't know, something to require that all members of this House named Jammy Duel produced thoughtful and creative legislation (a joke bill because it would be impossible to enforce)
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    A great bill from a great foreign secretary who is wasted in Comrade Ray's Labour Party. Aye.
    I'm curious as to what areas of foreign policy you think me and my long-time 'comrade' disagree on? If there are huge discrepancies in our views that I've somehow been unaware of despite knowing him for several years I must have made a mistake when I unilaterally appointed him to his post. :holmes:
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    I'm curious as to what areas of foreign policy you think me and my long-time 'comrade' disagree on? If there are huge discrepancies in our views that I've somehow been unaware of despite knowing him for several years I must have made a mistake when I unilaterally appointed him to his post. :holmes:
    Unilateral appointments eh? Might as well call yourself commissar
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    (Original post by Gladstone1885)
    Unilateral appointments eh? Might as well call yourself commissar
    In this country, the traditional term is 'prime minister'.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    In this country, the traditional term is 'prime minister'.
    Thought that would be to bourgeoisie for you!
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    Gladstone1885 update your member list, I believe you have got more members than that!
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    Gladstone1885 update your member list, I believe you have got more members than that!
    Noted, Thanks!
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    Also what colours are your seats going to be represented by?( cons are blue, labour is red, liberal is orange, what are the libers gonna be?)
    Maybe we'll take green
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    (Original post by Gladstone1885)
    Maybe we'll take green
    Oooh, do you think you will capitalise from the death of the liberals and how many seats do you think the liberals will bleed to you?

    Also why didn't you stay in the liberals , win leader, run on a centrist platform and guarantee a right wing government( as labour liberal would be of the table every time)?
 
 
 
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