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    (Original post by ward47)
    i totally agree with this i perosnally think that jeremy corbyn is the leader the labour party has needed for a long time as i was personally getting sick with new labour moving further and further to the right over the yeras rather than holding on to the values that their party was founded on helping the working man. corbyns labour all the way.
    I disagree. At first I though Corbyn's Labour would be good for the working man as he was one of Tony Benn's supporters. Unfortunately, Corbyn was not a bennite, he voted remain, although he campaigned with Tony Benn to leave in 1975. Corbyn is a liberal socialist. The working class needs proper socialist like Tony Benn. People who would want to reduce immigration to stop competition for jobs as the working class are more likely to lose their jobs. Corbyn is a nice lad, however, he is not leadership material. Personally, I would go for either Dan Jarvis, Clive Lewis, Keir Starmer or Gisela Stuart
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    (Original post by epsilondelta)
    Really keen to hear from people here, especially the why! I have become very disillusioned with my party, the tories, but no other parties fit my views properly either. And so I am wandering, aimless, party-less ...
    Why have you become disillusioned with the tories?
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Disagree. Nuttall is a self-proclaimed Thatcherite who wants to privatise the NHS.
    The BNP were genuinely protectionist economically.
    Surprisingly, the BNP were more left wing than Labour:
    https://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2015
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    I'd normally vote Tory. I don't support Brexit, so I'm not sure if I'd vote for them again. There's nobody else I'd vote for instead though. I'd either vote Tory, or not vote at all.
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    Conservative: support the growth of businesses which means more jobs for people that work hard and succeed in school, also not linked with the cancerous social justice movement and identity politics. Also support my core principles of individualism and equality of opportunity. Not perfect though and some of the social conservatives in there are frankly odious
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    (Original post by epsilondelta)
    Really keen to hear from people here, especially the why! I have become very disillusioned with my party, the tories, but no other parties fit my views properly either. And so I am wandering, aimless, party-less ...
    None of the above. Was Labour for a bit, then Tory, now neither. I'm just waiting for Michael Gove to become PM, with Rees-Mogg as Chancellor, Hannan as Foreign Secretary and Douglas Carswell as Home Secretary.

    I worry I'll be waiting a while.
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    I've always voted Labour, but now that they're led by morons I'll probably vote Lib Dem or spoil my ballot.
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    (Original post by JamesN88)
    I've always voted Labour, but now that they're led by morons I'll probably vote Lib Dem or spoil my ballot.
    Was thinking the same, until I remembered I live in a Tory - Labour marginal and a vote for Lib Dems would be a waste.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Was thinking the same, until I remembered I live in a Tory - Labour marginal and a vote for Lib Dems would be a waste.
    That's the problem when you live in a marginal you don't have the luxury of a free vote.

    You have to vote for the least worst option.

    Having said that the chance of a labour win in 0% so you can vote for who you like next time 😁


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    I'd love to say Plaid, but Leanne Wood has made it pretty painfully clear she can't inspire the people of Wales or be forceful enough to actually make people want to leave Britain.

    Labour is doing a sh*t job in Wales and the rest of the UK and frankly, Plaid's the only other party with half a chance of doing good for Wales. With neither being good options, I have to conclude...

    they'll all sh*t.
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    I am a socialist but would still go with the tories. They started Brexit and they must finish something they started. Labour is not as good as it used to be. Corbyn is just not a leader.
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    I am happy with Brexit and got what I wanted, so I will probably vote Tory again.
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    (Original post by paul514)
    That's the problem when you live in a marginal you don't have the luxury of a free vote.

    You have to vote for the least worst option.

    Having said that the chance of a labour win in 0% so you can vote for who you like next time 😁


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    Would sooner vote the BNP than the tories.

    Lib Dems wasted.

    Labour hopeless but have no choice but to vote for them.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Would sooner vote the BNP than the tories.

    Lib Dems wasted.

    Labour hopeless but have no choice but to vote for them.
    So you would rather vote for this than the conservatives....

    https://youtu.be/MSMrsB9p9Pk


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    (Original post by RedManc)
    I disagree. At first I though Corbyn's Labour would be good for the working man as he was one of Tony Benn's supporters. Unfortunately, Corbyn was not a bennite, he voted remain, although he campaigned with Tony Benn to leave in 1975. Corbyn is a liberal socialist. The working class needs proper socialist like Tony Benn. People who would want to reduce immigration to stop competition for jobs as the working class are more likely to lose their jobs. Corbyn is a nice lad, however, he is not leadership material. Personally, I would go for either Dan Jarvis, Clive Lewis, Keir Starmer or Gisela Stuart
    He supported remain only because he was leading a party of europhiles. He would have voted Leave had he not been leader and that's probably how he voted. Lewis and Starmer are among the most pro eu MPs out there so I don't see why you would support them. Gisela Stuart supports George Bush...

    I suggest you do some more research.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Was thinking the same, until I remembered I live in a Tory - Labour marginal and a vote for Lib Dems would be a waste.

    The dynamics have changed now.The lib Dems are getting huge swings from labour across the country not just in Richmond.
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    (Original post by paul514)
    So you would rather vote for this than the conservatives....

    https://youtu.be/MSMrsB9p9Pk


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    I don't think he was being serious tbf.
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    Conservatives. I am a right wing guy (Not far right) and I Looked at all the other right wing parties and while I was with ukip for a while due to my dislike for what the conservative party was doing, mainly being camerons fault and ukip is really the only other option without going crazy, but I really enjoyed some of what the conservatives were doing.when brexit happened and may got in and I saw what she stood for I was a lot more confident in the conservative party.
 
 
 
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