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    (Original post by flappydina)
    My friend pays less than 1k and he is 17 and he is driving a BMW 3 series which is why I said that for a small car 2k is being mugged off. I would never pay that.

    Just depends I guess. Like my cousins Corsa's gearbox broke and the car had to be towed home. A friends fiesta also is constantly broken and it's not that old. Just from my stories but ah well then. Never mind.

    Also preference I guess. Like I cannot stand hatchbacks etc. Absolutely hate those things. More of a saloon car guy. Not a huge fan of coupe's either. Depends on the car.


    Just depends. You have your stories, I have mine
    Again, largely dependent on the area you live in. If you like in a place with lots of traffic, high crime rate, "unsafe" parking and so on then your insurance as a new and young driver even just for a small hatchback could be a few thousand.

    Just one of those things again, if you're not careful when looking at ANY second hand car, then you could be picking yourself up a lemon. That goes for any model from any brand.

    A hatchback isn't a lot of people's ideal car, but financially they make sense if you're not a huge car enthusiast, don't need lots of space ad just use your car to get around.
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    (Original post by Numan786)
    I prefer hatchbacks because they're more 'convenient' for me in the sense of fitting it in tighter spaces and the like.
    Ah I see

    Parking isn't a huge issue tbh. With parking sensors on bigger cars and camera's in them seeing is pretty easy, the size you get used to very quickly too. Not that big imo
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    (Original post by flappydina)
    My friend pays less than 1k and he is 17 and he is driving a BMW 3 series
    At 17? Are you sure he wasn't embellishing the story just a little bit? :erm:
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    At 17? Are you sure he wasn't embellishing the story just a little bit? :erm:
    No. don't wanna go in detail but I saw proof

    Just don't crash!
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    (Original post by Sparkliest)

    I love Mini Coopers but there's not a lot within my price point as tax and insurance is so high.

    Any recommendations? Thank you.
    I have a mini one. I paid £3500 for the car, £130 for the tax and £800 for the insurance...
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    (Original post by flappydina)
    I am more than aware of this. Firstly, 1-2k for tax and insurance = him being screwed over. Those kind of cars cannot live forever.

    Once a car has hit around 100 000 miles (could be even near 80 000 or even 120 000), the faults RING IN endlessly. This is why German cars are good buys and have a reputation because from experience they last very long and have very few (if any) faults compared to your 10 year old Corsa (also from experience -multiple experiences).

    That's the point, maintenance. Fords etc will require a good bit of this. The German cars (as long as you don't go out of your way to try and break them) remain almost faultless. I am also not saying that only German cars are good. By all means there are other cheaper alternatives but it is the safest option and you would get your full money's worth too.

    Hence why I asked OP what his main priority in a car would be
    German cars are notorious for breaking apart, especially cheapers ones, and dont even get me started on old Audis - theyre worse than french cars. This is why most people lease out German cars because they can throw it away before it breaks down on them which it will.

    Japanese cars have always been reliability kings. And thats not just a cliche, you can have a look at the stats yourself.

    A cheap auto Yaris, Micra, Jazz, Civic will do fine but they wont be much less clunky.
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    (Original post by BullViagra)
    German cars are notorious for breaking apart, especially cheapers ones, and dont even get me started on old Audis - theyre worse than french cars. This is why most people lease out German cars because they can throw it away before it breaks down on them which it will.

    Japanese cars have always been reliability kings. And thats not just a cliche, you can have a look at the stats yourself.

    A cheap auto Yaris, Micra, Jazz, Civic will do fine but they wont be much less clunky.
    Which kind of **** would go and buy an old Audi and not expect it to break?

    Japanese are fairly reliable. Not totally but yeah, good reputation as well. I was saying German to OP incase he is also wanting speed, luxury etc. Doesn't matter
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    (Original post by flappydina)
    Which kind of **** would go and buy an old Audi and not expect it to break?

    Japanese are fairly reliable. Not totally but yeah, good reputation as well. I was saying German to OP incase he is also wanting speed, luxury etc. Doesn't matter
    OP said £4000-5000. Which means old.
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    (Original post by Sparkliest)
    I currently have an automatic 1L Citreon C1. However, I hate driving it. The automatic gearbox is a bit clunky and it doesn't feel safe to me as it feels really flimsy and as a new driver I want something that I feel protected and safe in.

    I have about £4500-£5000 in total which has to include insurance and tax for the year too.

    I love Mini Coopers but there's not a lot within my price point as tax and insurance is so high.

    Any recommendations? Thank you.
    Autotrader has over 100 automatic Minis for less than £4k? Starting at not much over £1k. Not sure if you're aware but the Cooper is the 'performance' variant of the Mini, so a Mini One will generally be cheaper to insure and run. A few of the more unusual offerings
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    Clearly limiting yourself to automatic vehicles significantly limits your choice, particularly for small cars, so (unless you only have an automatic licence) it might be worth considering a manual.

    Also be aware that a lot of the comments in this thread are based on stereotypes rather than fact. I've got no desire to get into arguments but there are far better ways to pick a car than on the basis of the country it was built in! Pick a few cars you like the look of and do a bit of research on them.
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    Actually I'd 100% recommend a Japanese car. I'd even say get a Civic (pre 2007) as those things are ****ing bullet proof. Well the petrol ones anyway a newer diesel maybe better?

    I had an uncle who owned an old Civic and he didn't even service it at all. He forgot to put oil in the car and drove a 200 mile trip without a problem. I've even had a garage owner tell me the old civics were bulletproof and they'd run on petrol fumes.
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    (Original post by Sparkliest)
    I currently have an automatic 1L Citreon C1. However, I hate driving it. The automatic gearbox is a bit clunky and it doesn't feel safe to me as it feels really flimsy and as a new driver I want something that I feel protected and safe in.

    I have about £4500-£5000 in total which has to include insurance and tax for the year too.

    I love Mini Coopers but there's not a lot within my price point as tax and insurance is so high.

    Any recommendations? Thank you.
    Toyota Aygo 1.0, Smart for two, Peugeot 106 1.2, Nissan Micra, a lot more
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    (Original post by flappydina)
    No. don't wanna go in detail but I saw proof

    Just don't crash!
    It's called fronting or cool story bro.
 
 
 
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