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    Hey guys!

    Anyone who knows about getting in to top med schools, this is for you!

    I am trying to get some work experience in a hospital, and I found this website called 'Premed Projects'. This is a programme where 16-18 year olds who want to enter the Medical field can get work experience by volunteering and shadowing doctors and doing all sorts of activities in many London Hospitals. This is a 6 day programme in the Summer.

    The website says that this is excellent for university application material as very few students show this type of dedication and interest, but I am a bit wary as to how good it is.

    I am wanting to do the 6 day programme and it costs £1400. A HUGE amount to say the least!

    A brother of one of my friends who is a young doctor says that doing this just shows that you have money to waste and nothing else!

    Is he right or should I go through with the programme?

    Thanks!
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    (Original post by dp00)
    The website says that this is excellent for university application material as very few students show this type of dedication and interest
    Lol ok. Admittedly I'm just an applicant myself but I highly doubt that attending would make a difference to your application. It's not a competition of seeing who's ready to throw away the largest amount of money. Just get some long-term volunteering yourself. You can go through with the programme of course if that's what you want, but if you decide to do it, do it for yourself and not for your application.
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    (Original post by StationToStation)
    Lol ok. Admittedly I'm just an applicant myself but I highly doubt that attending would make a difference to your application. It's not a competition of seeing who's ready to throw away the largest amount of money. Just get some long-term volunteering yourself. You can go through with the programme of course if that's what you want, but if you decide to do it, do it for yourself and not for your application.
    thanks for the response! The website says that this type of volunteering is useful for interview and application material. Do you think it will help a lot or just a bit? It seems pretty good so I reckon I will probs go through with it...
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    (Original post by dp00)
    thanks for the response! The website says that this type of volunteering is useful for interview and application material. Do you think it will help a lot or just a bit? It seems pretty good so I reckon I will probs go through with it...
    Complete ********. I mean you seem pretty set on it but it's an absolute waste of time for what is essentially paying a ridiculous amount to shadow doctors. It's possible to get weeks of medical shadowing for free so why bother paying?
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    If you want to do it then do it but it doesn't sound essential

    Medical schools aren't really interested in flashy work experience, they are more interested in what you have learned from it

    Also from my experience showing commitment over an extended period of time is more impressive than a 6 day fancy course


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    (Original post by dp00)
    thanks for the response! The website says that this type of volunteering is useful for interview and application material. Do you think it will help a lot or just a bit? It seems pretty good so I reckon I will probs go through with it...
    Volunteering is always useful and you need to have done some if you're applying for medicine. I'd personally prefer getting my own volunteering placement in a care home or something and being there for a long time and getting to know the residents and the staff. It's cheaper and imo more useful. That program could be useful to some extent in that you could get to see some stuff you otherwise wouldn't and maybe get some interesting stories to tell. I wouldn't spend my money on it but do as you wish
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    Thanks for weighing in everyone!

    The main reason I am taking part is because I have already done care home volunteering (for half a year) and voluntarily taught science in Primary School for a term.

    However, many Surgeries and Hospitals near me do not allow students to shadow doctors, so the project seems like a good option...

    I only want to do this if it will help me get some good experience and material I can use when applying to Uni as well as finding out if it is REALLY what I want to do...

    In terms of 'standing out from the crowd', will this help me when applying to Uni?
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    (Original post by dp00)
    Thanks for weighing in everyone!

    The main reason I am taking part is because I have already done care home volunteering (for half a year) and voluntarily taught science in Primary School for a term.

    However, many Surgeries and Hospitals near me do not allow students to shadow doctors, so the project seems like a good option...

    I only want to do this if it will help me get some good experience and material I can use when applying to Uni as well as finding out if it is REALLY what I want to do...

    In terms of 'standing out from the crowd', will this help me when applying to Uni?
    The actual shadowing etc involved will be great. But the name will do nothing for your application - unis won't care if you arranged it yourself or did it through a company. So you're just paying £1400 for 6 days which is a hell of a lot. If nowhere near you allows it, well, you could go somewhere else and use the £1400 to pay for train fares and hotels and things - and you'd be able to afford a lot more than 6 days if you did that.
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    Often unis don't count shadowing as work experience


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    (Original post by issyd10)
    Often unis don't count shadowing as work experience


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    Of course they do - you're not expected to perform the medical procedures yourself...
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    (Original post by dp00)
    Thanks for weighing in everyone!

    The main reason I am taking part is because I have already done care home volunteering (for half a year) and voluntarily taught science in Primary School for a term.

    However, many Surgeries and Hospitals near me do not allow students to shadow doctors, so the project seems like a good option...

    I only want to do this if it will help me get some good experience and material I can use when applying to Uni as well as finding out if it is REALLY what I want to do...

    In terms of 'standing out from the crowd', will this help me when applying to Uni?
    I think I'll echo what everyone else has said - it is a complete waste of money, and in my view totally against the efforts of most medical schools to improve equal opportunities.

    I did a day or two shadowing a surgeon, and I didn't end up writing about it much in my personal statement. My main discussion was about care home work, extracurriculars, and my degree/subjects. Just having hospital shadowing won't make you stand out - a lot of people have it. Have you looked at volunteering in a hospital or hospice? Or volunteering with disabled children at a specialist school or centre? If you live in/around London I'm sure there will be plenty of things like this.
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    (Original post by surina16)
    Of course they do - you're not expected to perform the medical procedures yourself...
    I know Keele (and possibly others) definitely don't count shadowing as work experience- they want you to actually do something like work in a nursing home or help in a primary school...


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    I think there is often too much of a focus on 'standing out' in medicine. I'm sorry to say, but with so many applicants each year and after so many applicantion cycles, it is pretty much impossible to 'stand out' But that really doesn't matter. Medicine applications aren't about standing out any more. Its about best fulfilling the criteria that universities use to select candidates for interview. Be that straight A*s at GCSE, or a high UKCAT. There is much more of a focus on measurable criteria such as this, than subjective things such as PS.

    Thats not to say work experience isn't important, but the majority of schools don't measure it. They just expect you to have a relatively good idea of what you're getting yourself into and whether you are suited. They understand that it isn't always easy to arrange work experience. You're already doing well by having a decent amount of volunteering, in a relevant area, under your belt.

    Please don't waste such a large amount of money, it won't help you get it. Save your money for when you're a poor student!!

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    I think there is often too much of a focus on 'standing out' in medicine. I'm sorry to say, but with so many applicants each year and after so many applicantion cycles, it is pretty much impossible to 'stand out' But that really doesn't matter. Medicine applications aren't about standing out any more. Its about best fulfilling the criteria that universities use to select candidates for interview. Be that straight A*s at GCSE, or a high UKCAT. There is much more of a focus on measurable criteria such as this, than subjective things such as PS.

    Thats not to say work experience isn't important, but the majority of schools don't measure it. They just expect you to have a relatively good idea of what you're getting yourself into and whether you are suited. They understand that it isn't always easy to arrange work experience. You're already doing well by having a decent amount of volunteering, in a relevant area, under your belt.

    Please don't waste such a large amount of money, it won't help you get it. Save your money for when you're a poor student!!
    I agree- focussing on the grades and UKCAT/BMAT are the most important thing
    However when it gets to interview and finding out what kind of person you are I think it is very important that the things you have learnt from work experience have given you the basic skills and personality traits that will make you a good doctor

    I got an offer from Plymouth and I know a girl who had a higher UKCAT and better GCSEs than me and is on the waiting list- so your interview skills etc are very important for getting the offer




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    From my experience doing a Premed course looked favourable to the interviewers as it showed determination. I do think £1400 is a bit ridiculous though. There's a Premed course that takes place just outside of Manchester called Medicus UK for £150 which is for 3 days and covers nearly everything. Check it out you'll most likely be better off
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    I found the same project but for 2 weeks for £300 should i do it?
 
 
 
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