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    What has to be remembered about masses is they're very good for getting stuff done, especially fighting when we're talking about the revolutions that actually achieve anything (because there are simply so many people), but without direction they're really no good. Masses need leaders, especially when they're not used to thinking for themselves. The masses are not the drivers of the change, they are the engine, the drivers are the small group of men leading and directing the men, your Robespierres, Lenins, Castros, Napoleons, Gueveras, Maos

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    You have a point.

    Good leaders are generally discovered during times of great trouble. We've had great trouble arleady, where are the great leaders?
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    You have a point.

    Good leaders are generally discovered during times of great trouble. We've had great trouble arleady, where are the great leaders?
    You're assuming that trouble implies great leaders, that's problem one, problem two is we both know if one of us suggests a great leader of today the other will almost certainly disagree
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    You're assuming that trouble implies great leaders, that's problem one, problem two is we both know if one of us suggests a great leader of today the other will almost certainly disagree
    No, I'm implying that troubles force good leaders out into the open. Good leaders probably wouldn't otherwise become leaders, because good leaders aren't in it simply for the power.

    Well, lets see then. Suggest some people who you think are great leaders.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    You're assuming that trouble implies great leaders, that's problem one, problem two is we both know if one of us suggests a great leader of today the other will almost certainly disagree

    I would add that great leaders need troubled times to show they are great.
    You don't get a black eye, if you aren't involved in a fight.
 
 
 
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